kontakt library issues on mac are driving me crazy

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  1. kontakthelp

    kontakthelp Newbie

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    so, after reading various posts here, i finally managed to get the libraries into kontakt 5.8.1 and stay there (i think the steps i did was changing some SNPID numbers in the xml files etc).

    however, some of my libraries (in that case evolution songwriter, rock standard and accordions 2) are added and show up in kontakts browser but as i try to load them an error message "this instrument belongs to a library that is currently not installed"

    i cant get a fix for this anywhere. i tried changing the SNPID numbers again, i checked the application support/native instruments/service center folder and the mentioned libraries show up there.

    please help me, am i missing something here?

    im on Mac OS High Sierra
     
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  3. JSaidler

    JSaidler Newbie

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    Hi! Did you manage to solve the problem with Accordions 2?

    If not: Change the xml file to <SNPID>P18</SNPID>. This did the trick for me!
     
  4. jazzzz

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    Accordions 2 works on v5.7.3, at least.
    I can't test it on 5.8.1 as I'm still on Yosemite. So it's hard to find the solution remotely.
    Check if the com.native-instruments.[this problematic library].plist file exists in [system drive] > Library > Preferences
    What if Kontakt created a duplicate .plist with altered name?
    Or the same could happen with the .xml file, who knows.
    Or this is related to Machine, Kontrol users when those are installed, as this Accordions 2 has some lines in .nicnt file about those softwares... just guessing.
     
  5. celtic3342

    celtic3342 Audiosexual

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    Download a different copy and try again.
     
  6. jazzzz

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    yeah, try another copy. Now I could finally test it (Accordions 2) on 5.8.1 and for me it works, however I'm not on High Sierra, so there can be some permission issues with some folders in (system) Library. Like the Preferences folder.
     
  7. Iggy

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    I just went into my own very similar problems about this on another thread, so I won't rehash them here, but there's one crazy thing that I haven't tried -- one that more than likely won't work:

    1) Go into Kontakt 5.5 (or whichever version you're using to add libraries with) and remove one of your problem libraries. Quit out of 5.5.

    2) Go into Kontakt 5.8.1. Go into your Files menu and select "Batch Resave". This is the part that may not work: try batch resaving that problem library you just removed from your Kontakt 5.5. If it actually works, quit out of 5.8.1. If not, disregard the rest of this post and find a different solution.

    3) If it did work, reopen Kontakt 5.5 and try re-adding that problematic library to your Library tab.

    4) Now see if it shows up in Kontakt 5.8.1's Library tab.

    The only reason I bring this up is because, every time I've gotten a new version of Kontakt, I usually do a batch resave of everything in my Kontakt 5 folder. And so far, only Akoustik and Elektrik Piano -- two libraries that NI claims they can't get to work inside of any version of Kontakt after 5.6.6 -- haven't shown up in my 5.8.1 Library tab (they can't even be loaded manually from the File menu). I haven't done that with 5.8.1 yet, and I may even try this out on Akoustik or Elektrik Piano, just to see if it's even possible, but every other library I own, even the old, creaky ones, can at least load up manually. I've even been using KLE v1 with Wine to create new .nicnt files (I just did it with Insolidus) and those load up fine. But It's possible that batch re-saving in 5.8.1 might fix the problem.
     
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  8. Iggy

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    Update: it looks like my theory is a wash, at least for Akoustik and Elektrik Piano. I attempted to batch resave Elektrik Piano in 5.8.1. 5.8.1 immediately warned me that the library wasn't installed, then started to resave anyway. It couldn't find any of the samples. Finally, I gave up and tried reopening Elektrik Piano in 5.6.6, which is now telling me that 5.6.6 is too old to open the library ... so I assume 5.8.1 saved something.

    Interestingly enough, I've been on a massive "add libraries" kick in the last couple of days. I haven't had any problems with any of my other libraries, except for Scarbee Jay-Bass. I created a .nicnt and dropped in a wallpaper for it, and was able to add the library in 5.6.6 with no problem ... until I quit out of 5.6.6 and re-opened it. The library vanished from the Library tab and I had to re-add it. It did this every time I quit 5.6.6 and re-opened it. I tried batch re-saving a few times, still no dice. And it doesn't show up in 5.8.1's Library tab at all, although both versions of Kontakt can manually load it with zero problems (meaning, 5.8.1 isn't considering it an "uninstalled library"). Since I don't use Jay-Bass that much (or at all), I just deleted the library off my drive. Scarbee Pre-Bass, on the other hand, has always shown up in the Library tab in both versions of Kontakt. It's just weird that all three of the libraries that have given me problems with 5.8.1 are NI libraries.
     
  9. jazzzz

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    Iggy,
    When a story looks too mysterious, we should always be more suspicious and think there are some more obvious causes and nothing mystery.
    I just tried Jay-Bass, adding in 5.6.0, didn't disappear and could open in 5.8.1 without problem. You mentioned that had created an nicnt file. That's the problem here, I think. It's an NI library, it came with an original nicnt file. These usually come with some special codes that I can't recognize as I just open the file in TextEdit which doesn't visualize every part correctly.
    Why did you have to create the nicnt file? (by the way the SNPID number I see was 415)
     
  10. jazzzz

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    btw, I've said it before in another thread on sistersite when people mentioned having problem adding Akoustik Piano in Kontakt.
    I was like :wtf:These libraries (Akoustik and Elektrik) were VSTi plugins, not Kontakt libraries. I guess someone took the samples and opened it in Kontakt (which was possible) and created a homemade Kontakt library. NI reused those samples too, in their then new Pianos collection for Kontakt but if you got that one, you wouldn't say the name Akoustik as the later release didn't have this name, as far as I remember.
    So, I really don't understand what's going on related to this. But clearly these issues are not Kontakt version specific, perhaps the newest versions are more picky to maintain a more trouble-free environment. When the newer versions load quicker, for example, it's because it doesn't let libraries to be added that have shitty sample structure.
     
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