Big Sur - The fear of updates and, Apps that work

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  1. quadcore64

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    I have personally had no issues with updating a 2014 MacBook Air that my son gave me. It originally had High Sierra. Went through all updates to get to Catalina which is now replaced by Big Sur. No issues.

    Properly structured & coded software (cracked), installs & runs flawlessly.

    Installed & running apps so far (more to come, iLok etc..) Logic, Reaper, S1:
    Ableton Live 10 runs in demo mode (Terminal patch worked. Keygen app won't run. Windows keygen?)
    Avid Link20.10 & Pro Tools First 2020.9 (With help from iLok Avid account is now active with license)
    Bitwig Studio 3.2.8
    balenaEtcher 1.5.101
    Digital Performer 10 (Demo)
    Firefox 83.0
    FL Studio 20 (trial 20.73 build 1303. No glitching or dropouts on any demo project)
    iLok 5.3.1
    Logic Pro X 10.6.0
    Melodyne 5.0.2.003
    qBittorrent 4.3.0
    Reaper 6.16 (Demo)
    Reason 11.3.5d22 build 12,097 Stable
    Studio One 5.1.0 (Demo)
    Waveform Pro 11 (90 day Demo - cracked version would not run)
    VLC Media Player 3.0.11.1

    Plugins:
    ADHD Audio Tools Leveling tool 1.3.3
    Arturia Pigments 2.0.1.837
    Crave EQ 2.0.23 (trial)
    Initial Audio IA-LA1 Compressor 1.0.3
    iZotope Nectar Plus 3.3.0, Neoverb 1.0.0, Neutron 3.2.0
    Klanghelm DC8C3 3.3.0, SDRR2 2.3.0, MJUC 1.5.0
    Korg Legacy Collection 2
    Lindell 80 Series 1.0.0
    Lindell Plugins Bundle 2.0.0 R2R
    MeldaProduction 14.12 Free Bundle
    MellowMuse ATA 2.3, CP1A 2.9, CP2V 3.0, CP3V 2.0, CS1V 2.3, EQ2V 2.6, EQ3V 1.6, IR1A 4.1, LM1V 1.6, STAV 3.0
    Native Instruments Kontakt 6.4.2 (R93)
    Nektar Bolt 1.0.1
    NEOLD V76U73 v1.0.0 MAC-DDP crashes DAW at start or, when loaded in DAW.
    OverTone DSP FC70 3.0.0, EQ500 3.0.0, DYN600 3.0.0, PTC-2A 3.0.2, PTM-5A 3.0.2
    SoundSpot Union 1.0.3
    SSL Native Bundle V6 6.5.39
    Toontrack Superior Drummer 3.2.3, EZbass 1.0.7, EZdrummer 2.1.8
    ToneBoosters Bundle 1.4.9
    XLN Audio Addictive Drums 2.1.9
     
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  3. Nydal

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    Kontakt 6.4.2 ?
    For me only 6.3.2 plugins are working with Big Sur,
    6.3.2 standalone don't start (it was OK with Catalina 10.15.7)
     
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    Installed after Big Sur update to see if it would run.
     
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  5. Foobar

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    The problem of Big Sur is that Little Snitch can't block the OS from phoning home anymore. In theory it can't block anything anymore, if anything adds itself to the list of stuff Big Sur doesn't allow to block. Including malware. LS won't even tell you if anything like that is phoning home.

    And the second problem ist probably that you can't go back after installing Big Sur.
     
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    Big Sur is great, just wait for 10.1 (coming soon), very promising for audio production and video. Graphics use way less CPU, and APFS on SSD is mind blown. But we must wait.
     
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  7. quadcore64

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    Enjoying the performance of macOS.

    As this is not my daily driver, I feel more at ease doing updates as they come. The experience so far has been great. Also, I disconnect from internet anytime I am installing or using cracked software as a general rule.
     
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    what? do you read/listen/watch any software news?

    read LS developers blog:
    https://blog.obdev.at/a-hole-in-the-wall/
     
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    Any reliable source(s) that confirm that on Big Sur graphics use way less CPU ?
    I assume this would be very welcome for DAW's that have a resource demanding GUI, like FL Studio and Cubase.
     
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    I tested only Cubase 11 and S1 (which have compatible versions for metal and Big Sur) and compared with Catalina and Mojave, Cubase 11 have full metal support and Pro One 5.1.1 half-baked, not there yet but much faster redraw.

    To early but very promising, lot of users waiting for Vulcan on Windows or maybe Microsoft "Heavy Metal" for same effect


    one public info from regular user:

    "Just installed Big Sur on the Mac Pro 2013 6 core and I gotta say, Cubase 11 is so responsive on this setup. This is the best experience with Cubase I’ve had yet. I’m not using 4K though, i have two 60” LG lcd TVs since I like to move around the studio a lot and stand away from the screens but still see things clearly from far away. But man Big Sur is really responsive and Cubase is incredible.

    Played with Logic for a few days and it has great stuff but feels really sluggish when you start adding automation and editing with big track counts, Cubase is responsive under any load and feels great. A fantastic time for Cubase users on Mac, thank you Steinberg! These are tough times and you really came through here."

    source: https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=307&t=203425
     
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    I'm not on Mac but that would make sense. The versions before Direct3d (12) and OpenGL(3 or4 something) were very bad in the CPU overhead department and in general.
    That's why Vulkan kicked their asses. More complex to develop but way faster. Since Vulkan is open source is predating OpenGL. Direct3d12 was Microsoft doing things Vulkan-ish.

    Apple like usual sticks to their own technology, but probably happens the same under the hood. Apple aside, Vulkan is the future. It's at least as fast as Direct3d12. It's a pity money talks too in this and Windows/Direct3D it's the platform to develop games extremely cutting-edge games.

    PS. You may think Vulkan and Directx12 are quite old already, but the transition is hard for developers so games/Cad/3d aside not so many know how to exploit them fully.
     
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    I was more verbal about it, and that we have to wait and see if this gets sorted out, in another Thread. Didn't wanted to repeat everything. So far, I don't recommend Big Sur (or M1 Macs). I'm not sure how this will go on, in which direction and when. It's possible that Little Snitch finds a way to work reliably again, it's possible that Apple may turn back to respect the privacy of the users again, but it is also possible that Apple hides it even deeper, so LS can't fix it anymore. I wouldn't rule out anything as Apple put quite a lot of effort into blocking Little Snitch already. And they just say now that may make an option to opt out of the certificate check, they didn't say they will revert all of the hidden connections behind the back of firewalls.
     
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    Updated (Intel) apps load much faster and, so far seem to have better performance.
     
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