Genre specific OS. Why not Windows?? This is in your specialty. Rebutles welcome

 

anyways, i cant install RME or MOtu Audio drivers on Mac os Bif Sur
Same Maschine with Catalina works with both drivers.

Apparently there is some trick to install them but i cant get past mac security locking me out of my own settings
And also APFS fucks up some timemachine backups for me

 

Remember remember the 12th of November
Are all developers uptodate by now?

 

https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/macos-11-big-sur-compatibility-guide/

 

Spec: MacBook Pro 2013 with
Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB, I7 16GB RAM, SSD

Revision 1:
Cubase after longer work can leak (I think only on older macs, not sure) I contact one one guy (Apple Employee) to test on better machine and see is only my issue.
Logic Pro 10.6 tested and only have green light from me, which was to be expected, so I left it for last.

Revision 2, 23 Nov 2020:
Good news for Cubase, I checked on Cubase site I they claim compatibility fo 10.5 and 11 from day one with Big Sur 12 Nov. So I dug further and found that some plugins appear to leak after a certain amount of time. It's very hard to spot which one. First for sure now is Roland Cloud Synths.
If I test only audio tracks with NI and Cubase only efx all works perfect. Green light for Cubase.

Revision 3, 24 Nov 2020:
Diva crashing sometimes in VST and VST3 with Cubase 11
Works ok with Logic Pro 10.6 as AU
Rob Papen (older version leaky) and DMG Audio seams no issues.
Valhalladsp full supported latest versions (not tested)


DAWs tested:

• Cubase 11 - The beast is back, can be best version for macOS 10.14 + and 11+
• Studio One 5.1.1 - works fine much snappier and faster compared to Mojave/Catalina but on my machine I need to disable graphic acceleration to work same as on Catalina.
• Performer 10.13 - not ready yet
• Ableton Live 10 (for most people it works, I personally have not tested)
• Logic Pro 10.6 - no single issue, best version yet, very good performance on small buffers

WARN: if all plugins must support Metal or will be mess and CPU will melt (In my case)

Plugins tested:

• Arturia efx and vst OK
• FabFilter, PA, d16 works perfect
• NI Massive, Reaktor, Absynth FM all ok
• KORG seams work fine for now but need more tests
• Synapse audio Dune 3, Obsession, Legend OK
• u-he Zebra, Diva (AU only) rest OK
• PSP find only one issue with selecting presets and saving, but they works great
• Rob Papen NO
• DMG Audio OK (some plugins tested not all)

laggy with graphics and sometimes glitches (this can slow down DAW and eat cpu)

• Gforce imposcar (crash on preset change), others still testing...
• Steinberg Groove agent, Retrologue others VSTi are fine, see more
• XilsLab all synths slow UI, but works somehow for now, code for UI was always sloppy anyway
• HY-Plugins - slow UI, useless for now
• Roland Cloud - memory leaks and unstable

What I found is, newer versions of Plugins and DAWs that were compatible with Catalina have a great chance to work (Intel Macs), most older code and plugins with OpenGL can cause glitches on display.
OpenGL to Metal and Intel to M1 transition is most sensitive part.

All in all I'm impressed with .0.1 release for the first time in apple history (ok maybe snow leopard)

NOTE: I will update the list and problems

 

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Great informative and useful post, thank you !

 

Big Sur is a no go until I see fully functional Little Snitch,
fair to say though, I'm tempted to try some multi-touchscreen hack pro build

 

So what's wrong with LIttle Snitch 5 ?

 

Big Sur stops it from working.
Maybe have a quick browse through the thread.

 

Apple changed macOS to include a "don't touch" list for firewalls. Apple won't respect firewall rules anymore and neither do they respect a VPN. And what's even worse, it's possible that other software or even malware will use this to bypass the firewall (Little Snitch) as well. LS 5 works, but it doesn't protect or even inform you about anything on the bypass list in Big Sur.

As this was probably a lot of work for the Apple programmers, it's unlikely that Apple will take this back, even though it's a violation of data protection acts in many countries and even of Apple's own terms of service. It's likely that Apple doesn't want anyone to have privacy anymore as they don't do stuff like that by accident. Hopefully Little Snitch will find a way around this shit.

 

Last edited: Nov 24, 2020

I actually think that is was one of the rare occasions where Apple programmers actually purposefully messed up.

Apple's new network gate is similar somewhat to the concept of the MS network stack though not as tall and seems to be geared more so the use of network protocols as service channels rather than the firewall busting and side-leaking shit storm that it is today.

If you are running Dante or AVB this would be beneficial. However as it it currently built it just doesn't make any sense.

I could be wrong but I think that Apple rushed ARM M1 and need MacOS 10.15 and MacOS 11 deployed before they were finished or ready. Only time will tell but I expect the most obvious security holes to be closed up in the next big patch. For now I am quite content to wait and see as the cure is worse than the disease.

 

Last weekend I upgraded to Big Sur and tried to install a lot, just to see what happened. I'm back to Catalina now but here's the list with results!

WORKING (Logic)

Plug-ins (free)
Adam Szabo Phazor 1.0.1
Audio Damage RoughRider 3.1.0
Beyer Dynamic Virtual Studio 04-13
Blue Cat Audio Freeware Pack
Cableguys PanCake 2.3.1
D16 Group Frontier 1.0.0
DMG Audio TrackControl 1.0.6
Full Bucket Phaser 1.0.0
LSS DJeq 1.0
Matt Tytel Vital 1.0.5
Nembrini Audio NA 808 1.0.0
Press Play Wave Observer 1.1.0
PSPaudioware PianoVerb 1.9.0
Slate Digital Fresh Air
Slate Digital VMR 2.5.6.2 (Revival, The Monster, Trimmer)
Smartelectronix s(M)exoscope
Softube Saturation Knob 2.5.9
Soundspot FAT
Tek'it Audio Winkl 1.3.0
TSE Audio BOD 3.0.0
Valhalla FreqEcho 1.2.5
Valhalla SpaceModulator 1.2.5
Valhalla Supermassive 1.2.2
Venn Audio Free Clip 0.9.2
Venn Audio Quick Haas
Venn Audio Utility 0.9.2
Voxengo SPAN 3.10
Wave Arts Tube Saturator Vintage 1.0.5
Xfer Records 8-Bit Shaper 1.106
Xfer Records Delta Modulator 1.06
Xfer Records Dimension Expander 1.01
Xfer Records DJM Filter 1.11
Xfer Records OTT 1.25
Youlean Loudness Meter 2.4.2

Plug-ins (legit)
AIR Creative FX Collection Plus 1.2.1 (*)
Arturia Chorus JUN-6 1.0.0
AVOX 4.2.0 WARM
Blue Cat Audio Patchwork 2.43
Cableguys Kickstart 1.0.9
Cableguys ShaperBox 2.3.1
Cakewalk Z3ta+2.2
D16 Group Decimort 2.1.6
D16 Group Devastor 2.1.6
Dada Life Sausage Fattener 1.2.1
Eventide Precision Time Align 3.7.3
IK Multimedia T-Racks 5.4.0
Initial Audio Reverse 1.0.4
Initial Audio SlowMo 1.0.4
iZotope Trash2 2.05dn
Kilohearts Toolbox 1.8.14
Klanghelm VUMTdeluxe 2.4.0
Korg MS-20 2.0.7
Lennar Digital Sylenth1 (3.067)
Letimix GainMatch 1.1.3
Native Instruments Massive 1.5.5
Nembrini Audio PSA1000 1.2.4
Oxford Inflator Native 3.16.0
Plug And Mix 3.3.2
Plugin Alliance 1.2.3
Plugin Boutique Carbon Electra 1.5
PSPaudioware SpringBox 1.1.0
Reveal Sound Spire 1.5.6
Sonarworks Reference 4.4.6.20
Sonic Charge Microtonic 3.3
Soundtoys 5.3.3
Synapse Audio Dune 1.4
United Plugins RoyalCompressor 1.11
ValhallaRoom 1.6.3
Wave Arts Tube Saturator 2.1.2
Xfer Serum 131b9
(*) Only when components saved on Mojave (copy/paste), installer won't work.

Plug-ins (warez)
A.O.M. Total Bundle 1.10.0
ArtsAcoustic Reverb 1.6.0.15
Audio Damage AD034 Eos 2.1.0
AudioRealism ABL3 3.2.2
Cytomic The Drop 1.6.5
Cytomic The Glue 1.4.1
FabFilter Total Bundle 2020.12.08
iZotope Advanced 9.10a
KORG Collection Bundle v2
Lexicon PCM Native Reverb Bundle 1.3.6
Native Instruments Kontakt 6.5.0
Native Instruments RC 48 1.3.1
Tritik tkDelay 1.4.6
U-he Zebra 2.9.0
Valhalla VintageVerb 2.1.2

Apps (legit/free)
Adobe Acrobat Reader 2020.013.20074
Amvidia To WAV Converter 1.0.16
Daemon Tools 8.2.715
DAW Logic Pro X 10.6.1
dBpoweramp Music Converter R17.4 LAME 3.100
ID3 Editor 1.28.50
iLok2 5.3.2
Keka 1.2.9
LuLu 2.2.0
MediaInfo 20.09
MIDIPlayer X 2.2.4
Mixed In Key 8.5.3.4078
Mozilla Firefox 85.0
MusicMath 5.4
Pacifist 3.6.2
Pioneer Firmware 1.12
Pioneer Rekordbox 6.5.0
PlugInstall 1.0.0
Samsung Portable SSD Setup 1.0
SoulseekQt 2020-1-20
Spek Alternative 0.8.2.3
Spotify 1.1.51.382
The Unarchiver 4.2.4
True Audio Quality 1.1
UAD 9.131
UAD LUNA 1.1.4
uTorrent Web 1.1.3.3350
Virtualdj 2021_b6263
VLC 3.0.12 + Setup 3.70
VOX 3.3.19
WavePad Audio Editor 12.08
XP630 Lite 64NR NA (Epson)

Apps (warez)
Celemony Melodyne Studio 5.1.1
Codeweavers CrossOver 20.0.4
iZotope RX 8 Audio Editor 8.1.0
Magix Sound Forge Pro 3.0.0
Microsoft Office 2019 16.45


ISSUES

Legit / free

Auganizer 2.0.1 > not possible to open / error message
No reply or message by developer (yet)

D16 Group Drumazon 1.6.2 > does not open in Logic / crashes
D16 Group Phoscyon 1.9.5 > does not open in Logic / crashes
"We've confirmed they don't work properly on MacOS 11 and they won't be going to work until we release new versions of them. Sorry!"

EWQL PLAY 6.1.9 > has troubles loading in Logic
"EastWest software is not currently compatible with MacOS Big Sur."

Mozilla Thunderbird 78.7.0 > loading troubles after install, seems to work properly though after Mac restart
"Thunderbird performs sluggishly on macOS Big Sur."

Pioneer Driver 1.0.0 (XDJ-XZ) > error message when installing
"we can’t guarantee our products are compatible with the new operating system."

Sonalksis FreeG > Plugin Manager crashes
"Please note that at this time we do NOT support macos 11 (Big Sur) or Apple Silicon."

Warez

OhmForce Ohmicide 1.3.2 > can't install
Sonic Academy Kick 2 1.1.1 > GUI not visible in Logic
Waldorf Edition 2.2.0 > error when installing but still working in Logic

 

I made the switch last wk. It actually resurrected Altiverb which wasn't working in Catalina with Ableton, Logic, Cubase & Gig Performer. Haven't had any issues with any other plugin besides Synplant, but that hasn't been updated for over 3 years...

 

I made a leap forward (High Sierra -> Big Sur 11.1) on my secondary hackintosh (i7-4770, 32GB ram, 500GB SSD) and I must honestly admit it works amazing, far better than previous MacOS

 

For me all working also even driver for motu Elektron uad etc and I 'm impressed by the speed of os and stability far away from Catalina :::