AudioUTOPiA PT HD v12.5 Stability

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  1. Sinnistar7

    Sinnistar7 Ultrasonic

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    Good people, Had a quick question for you all. Any of you that have "Avid Pro Tools HD v12.5.0.395"
    up and running? If so, how is the stability? Have you had any major issues with this since the time you have installed it and have been using it?

    I ask cause well, I am looking to ditch my legit version of PT standard and get this up and going cause well, for starters it is HD, so there is a wealth of perks with that alone (larger track count just to start is good enough.) Secondly it has the ability to use a lot of the goodies that have been released (wink wink)

    So this is just a friendly inquiry into any of you out there using this and what kind of experience you have had with it. I have read a lot of post stating that some have not gotten some software and or hardware to work. But this is mainly for the software itself. Does it perform like "normal" or has there been any weirdness you have experienced? Such as not saving, crashing, not loading files correctly, etc.

    Please share and and anything else you may like about this release.

    Thank you
     
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  3. SineWave

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    It works just fine and stable with Windows 7 x64, in my experience. No issues. :wink:
     
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  4. Billy Shears

    Billy Shears Newbie

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    Not true. AudioUtopia Pro Tools 12.3 is far better choice. 12.5 becomes very slow with clips when you start having bigger projects. 12.3 doesn't have that issue. Trust me. Try right-clicking a clip in 12.5 in a large session and you'll notice it takes several seconds to do so. Try then that same project on 12.3: no issues.
     
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  5. Sinnistar7

    Sinnistar7 Ultrasonic

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    Awesome, thank you for the info! I will try this out. I know that 12.5 had some video fixes and such. And that is a biggy since I do a lot of post work. Have you experienced anything wonky with using PT and the wide assortment of plugins and such out there?
     
  6. Grzesiek

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    A month ago I have switched to legit Pro Tools 2018. Night and day. Everything started working like it should. I would never switch back to cracked HD.
     
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  7. boomoperator

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    Yes, like to try that out myself. Waiting from, well.. 2018-1 :dont:
    @Sinnistar7, I actually went back to 12.3 because in 12.5 video didn’t work. Then I installed about 10 versions of the Blackmagic software to get the Intensity card work without glitches.
    A downside to HD is that it wants exclusive usage of the audiointerface when running, so you’ll need another device or Rewire when using other audio software at the same time. I’m using the Extreme card’s audio output into my main interface for searching & browsing.
    Don’t know if Avid fixed that on the 2018 version.
     
  8. Sinnistar7

    Sinnistar7 Ultrasonic

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    @Grzesiek I would continue to use Legit PT but with the Paid updates and the limiting features. It is a hassle to do any real substantial work. And with a their prices...it is hard for anyone not working on major studio or budget to afford anything "industry standard" I bounce between several DAWs to do my work and though many have more robust features and tools for doing work, PT still has a more standardized work flow that is really appealing and that is why I still have it in my "tool box"

    @boomoperator It is weird to hear this cause I have 12.5 installed on my test machine and video is working fine (with no Blackmagic:winker:haha) But seriously, I am running off of my vid card with no issues. And as far as the priority over audio issue, this is something I can look into. I use a MOTU 192 HD as my main. I could look into getting something to stream secondary source audio through.

    Thank you both for the feed back. This is all really good insight.:wink:
     
  9. SineWave

    SineWave Audiosexual

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    Well, one of my clients is claiming there are no issues whatsoever with the 12.5 I installed, so I'm just parroting his statement. I've heard about the problems that some people have with 12.5 and asked him about it and if he wants to go back to 12.3 and got a negative answer.

    Maybe the problems are related to some specific piece of PC hardware, software or a driver. I'm really putting a lot of effort into making my PCs as optimised for audio as possible. Video not so much in this case.

    ProTools have traditionally been rather picky with hardware, to say the least... one of the reasons I don't like it personally. It's also really troublesome with many plugins... but someone will say it's working perfectly... well, good for you then! :wink: Cheers!
     
  10. Aileron

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    I've switched between 12.5 and 12.3 but experienced no issues with either version. Maybe it's the hardware. Pro Tools likes a fast platform. I bought my current PC off my girlfriend's son, it's a bit of a gaming rig I guess and I initially got it to run Flightsimulator. The PC does everything very well, except fly. That it only simulates. Giggling aside however, the rumor that 12.3 stays up longer than 12.5 under bigger projects may hold some truth. I've heard it said by a few who know.

    Win7 x64, AMD, 24 GB memory

    Edit: I'm not an expert, I was hoping you guys would be :guru:
     
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    I've also heard that 12.3 is more stable. When Audioutopia released 12.5 we had a thread about it here at AS and most people agreed that 12.3 is more stable. There surely must be something to it. I'd suggest everybody to simply test both versions with their PC, starting with 12.3 and it's probably the best to stay with 12.3 if you find new features in 12.5 of no real importance. :wink:

    Seems like video guys have more problems with 12.5. I know nobody who synchronises video to audio in PT. It's usually Vegas or Cubase. So I don't know how different versions handle video. It's good to know such things. Thank you! :)
     
  12. Sinnistar7

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    All good info! this is why I just like to ask and see what comes of the knowledge pool. Thank you all for the knowledge. I guess I am just going to uninstall my legit version of PT and go forth with trying out 12.3 HD and and see how that goes. I am tired of all these big company taking hold of us by the short and curlys and leading us to where they think we need to be. Driving us further into the hole and out of the pool. With subscriptions and pay for updates...It is hard if you dont have the budget or clientele to afford staying in the mix or compliant with "industry standard":sad:

    Okay this went from one asking a question to a bitch post. My apologies for that. But again thank you for all the insight. Please feel free to add more to this post as I am sure some more peeps out there would like to know how things measure up between the 2 version and such. I will for sure add to the post with my findings.

    :wink:
     
  13. loceanolow

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    hi
     
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  14. Bullwark

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    Hey Guys!

    Has anyone running a copy of 12.3HD on a Win 10 PC? Does that even work with comp.mode?
    I'm currently working to set up a new system because the old one has severely damaged over the past years (mobo and graphic).
    My PT10 works like a charm on the old machine but I'm working on longer projects (Podcasts f.e.) and is literally a pain in my brain when I have to bounce several large tracks down. I spend up to 1-2 days only for rendering. So the offline bounce in PT12 got me very interested at this point!
    I'm also eager to know if someone has exp. PT10 on Win10. Or PT12 on Win7.
    Right now it is a budget question for me because I work with a Saffire Pro 24. I've read that Firewirecards do not work on Win10. So in order to get my Interface running I have to buy a Thunderboltcard and a "fire to bolt adapter".
    I hope I don't bother you with my questions but I'm really at a struggle since the old machine's with one foot already in the grave.

    Thanks for reading and a happy April Fools day!
    Btw, this Post is NOT a joke!!! ;)

    My regards!
     
  15. korte1975

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    i absolutely recommend version 12.3.1 with the new brainworx bundle from V.R. works 100% stable for weeks now.
    cheerz,

    Dirk
     
  16. mosaiques

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    Yet you won't make sure you have an up-to-date (which in this case means paid for) version of your platform? Weird...
     
  18. Hennessey

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    Yep, v.12.5 is unstable in most cases so better solution is 12.3 version of Pro Tools.
     
  19. Peek

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    Hi guys,
    my experience: i just switched from 12.3 to 12.5 (AudioUtopia) because in 12.3 video don't works. In 12.5 video goes and it goes flawless.
    And the most absurd thing is that I installed PT on Win7 by parallel desktop on a quad-core dual graphic macbook pro i7 with 10 gb of ram assigned to win7 and 6gb to osx. It's great. It sounds incredible but it's the pure truth. According to my tests the ver 12.5 is definitely less reactive than the PT 10, but it is absolutely more stable than 12.3.
     
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  20. mosaiques

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    If you have a big session like 8 or 9 hours of material and you start to do some editing like trimming, crossfading and cutting, go and see what happens with AudioUTOPiA's PT 12.5 or 12.3. It takes between 5 to 10 seconds for every little process. It's a pity, I love the 12.5 version, it runs very stable but it has that problem. Some say that the original PT 12.5 has the same issue... :dunno:
     
  21. Mascarponi

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    I can agree. I´ve tested PT12.3, 12.5 on windows 7 and 10 but i still prefer PT10.3 because it works snappier with video. You can certainly feel a little delay when starting/stopping your session in PT12. This has to do with the new video engine introduced from PT11 if i'm right. Don't know why they all can live with it. To me it feels like 10.3 is way more stable.
     
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