VST or Soft for Making Wavetables?

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  1. Roject

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    Is there a vst or soft editor to make wavetables like drawing in Paint?
    Or from bezier curves like in vector graphics?
    Or image converter that convert drawing of wave to sound?
    Like draw first wave then next & next and max 128 or 64?

    There is nice tool inside Serum but You can't draw there. You can only use ready shapes.
    Is there any alternatives but more advanced?
     
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  3. Polomo

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    Serum is also very powerful you can import Bitmaps for example
    or just freeform draw there too

    It´s a bit strange, but you have to set the grit button (low right corner in wavetable edit to 0/0)



    And maybe the 3. (even if I have to say I hate this company so only an if the other totally don't work for you ) Icarus by Tone2 is also an interesting one for editing Wavetables
     
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    So You can draw in Serum. Nice!


    Yeah I know that You can drag image but it generates whole wavetable.


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    I want someting that You can convert simple image into single wave in wavetable.
    Some graphic programs have auto smoothing when You draw by hand so edges wasn't be that jiggy like in Serum.


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    And I saw in Aphex Twin video that he using some Tracker. And in this tracker was built-in tool to draw a wave shape.
    He can draw wave shape, volume and pan envelope. He can edit and draw in any sample.
    Is there something similar? Vst or soft?


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    vital dune 3
     
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    yeah
    https://sendvid.com/091a5s51

    a lil bit laggy but OK
     
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    I trying make wavetabe in Vital but it suck for me. Serum have more advance tool for it.



    Yeah but tool for makeing this inside the sample will be great.
    And image to wave shape converter or option in Serum to auto smoothing to get rid of jiggy edges.
     
  8. Polomo

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    I found a way but it terribly complex

    So first there is no simple Image to wavecycle tool sadly (2h research maybe someone can prove me wrong)

    but you can convert BMP to CSV and CSV to WAV (Also no tools found for that without programming)

    1. BMP to CSV https://github.com/k1mny/bmp2csv

    2. Python https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41209733/csv-to-wav-python

    I think someone like Xupito would be better in this, and maybe can make a tool with the source code

    I'm just too stupid for this

     
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    How do you mean , inside a sample ? I thought you want to just be able to freely paint a waveform ? Or Import a image. But isnt it the same just painting teh waveform in serum instead of painting it as image and then import ?

    Here another way to paint a OSC Shape :

    https://sendvid.com/6gxednsc

    Alt+drag LFO to OSC
     
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    Wow! Noice! So it's like drawing with bezier curves!
    And this is not all! This working like I want!
    First click edit button and create few waves, just copy first few times.
    And then like You show but first set WT knob to wave You want to swap.

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    I mean separate tool for drawing inside sample like in Aphex Twin video. And separate tool for convert images to waveforms.
    Graphic programs have option to autosmooth curves. When You draw it corrects You and smooth drawing. But if You can draw with bezier curves You can recreate it so it's not necessary. I explained everything in my second post in this topic.


     
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    Nice! Thx Tomasz!

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    there are tons of tools and there are tons of synths, but the most important thing is that the tool fits exactly to the synth you are using, in most cases waves stop to make sense when there is only a little error in them.

    saying that, you completely overrate "free hand drawing" - that is of no real use since it is not a form of synthesis and random waves quickly sound all the same.

    wavetables are first in line generated by various other synthesis models, including but not limited to additive, substractive, pd, fm, am, physical modelling sythesis, and then eventually including further processing auch as sync, crossmixing, spectral morphing, pulse/burst techniques, bandlimiting and so on.

    that waveedit app is probably the best current to go solution, i wrote my own app similar to that years ago and if i would have to rate that synthesis technology waveedit app it would clearly receive a mark A.

    however, mouse painting is available in many audio editors sinc the 80ies. not sure why some "pro" programs leave it out. :)
     
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    Have You shared this app somewhere or are You only using it internally?
     
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    Yup have this and super underrated. Makes making/morphing wavetables easy
     
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    nope, if it would be available i would have linked it already. :) it requires a few things which are not available for modern OS.

    but i just remebered one more tool. it was a suite of 2 cute little apps creating single cycle waveforms and everything in it was cube shaped.
    i dont find it in my w.. collection now but it should be called something with "cube" and it was free. maybe someone can tell the name.

    yep, and audioterm, i know him. it includes fft analysis & partial contruction by loading samples.
     
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    Fathom has the wavedraw oscillator which allows to draw by freehand or by using Bezier, then it can be saved to single cycle wav.
     
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