expand on this idea please.....music first

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  1. retsoff119

    retsoff119 Kapellmeister

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    Absolutely !
    This is one of the "golden rule" . The reverse (Using Labia Majorais ON testicular minor) is a more subtle as a rule, and subject of in depth development , because of the 17 key signatures order ...
     
  2. MaXe

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    I thought the OP of the thread is that foster guy, haha xD
     
  3. BaSsDuDe

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    Absolutely, but memorising the keys backwards is also important so as not to accidentally use "I" when attempting modes which can also be self-serving even in reverse nobody wants to hear Labia Majora I or testicular Minor I either.. So this means there is no melodic testicular minor because it is too painful to strike to get the key or any Dominant Labia Majora though it can carry some of the minor keys.


    I wonder if anyone understands why this utterly ridiculous parody exists. Probably not, because they are too busy discussing things that can be found anywhere and are absolutely futile to argue about, if they bothered to check for themselves.
     
  4. MMJ2017

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    what is the connection between what you just said and the specifc context info i had presented leading up to the very comment of mine you just quoted?

    (don't get me wrong I love your comment for an "in general" circumstance)

    The info presented here is not a composition.
    there is no specific note length that must be played in any certain way.
    the information is talking about how 4 scale tones in a row is equivalent to 2 connecting 7th chords ( or 1 9th chord) and the chart demonstrates a spiral motion
    ex. A B A G F G A B A G F G A B A G F G A B (played over top of Bmin7flat5, or G7(if you add in button hook you can turn into spirals. but the 4 notes are FGAB
    THAT IS THE POINT
    of the information, ( 100 ways to play those 4 note combinations up to the person making the music)
    The point of presenting this information in this context was a reply to earlier topic related to people saying that you just use your ears with no theory and can come up with varieties of chords fitting together just by ear and ignorant of music theory ( way music works)
    My comment presenting this information was direct response to that earlier claim.
    and in this context I demonstrated a connection between chords of a key and themselves and with a 4 note scale fragment. ( in such a way where all these connections are never going to be "accidentally" found out by ignorance of music.
    Nuance, people Nuance.
     
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  5. BaSsDuDe

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    @superliquidsunshine
    Ah a music lover...
    Did you know that the reason Beethoven's scores became more complex as of The Fifth Symphony were the fault of a Bass player?
    - No they didn't all go to the bar and make Beethoven write better music.
    Seriously - Dominic Dragonetti was one of the earlier Contrabass Virtuosos and he played a Bach Cello concerto in the upper register for Beethoven. Beethoven was so knocked out that the range of the bass could be extended that he wrote more difficult lines as of the Fifth Symphony. The Sixth is tougher again.
    Nice trivia.
     
  6. BaSsDuDe

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    A serious and helpful post for anyone asking "What else can I add to my practice routine?"

    If ANY musician whether Rock, Jazz, Blues, Funk, R&B, HipHop, Country or ANY STYLE... wants to develop their technique in DEXTERITY and ACCURACY only...
    Learn a BACH piece. Anything like C Minor prelude a Cello concerto - ANY of them that are not ballads - By ear or by written music it does not matter which.
    All the Rock players: Vai - Malmsteen etc etc and many Jazz players have too. They rarely if ever use them though some you can hear it, but what it does is mean that most things you won't have too much difficulty with most speeds in whatever chosen field of music you play because the technique demands are fairly high.
    Start slow and work up. It works. You do not have to treat it as anything other than one part of a practice routine :)

    Here's an example of some guy in Japan doing it. It is only useful for technique but it will transfer to anything anyone wants to play in other styles.. On ANY instrument.
     
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  7. freefeet12

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    Don't give them any ideas. Icebergs, climate, games, media, taxes, biology, linguistics, comedy, literature, pollution, politics, math, fucking vaganism, a lot more I missed, but as far as know they haven't yet touched music theory. Shhhhhhh quiet. :trolls:
     
  8. Herr Durr

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    no actually.. we're not... I didn't "report" anything chop u very much
    and I can take or leave your posts as well..

    if you don't believe me.. feel free to ask around

    thanks to @BaSsDuDe for bringing us back to the "music" here in the "music forum"
     
  9. BaSsDuDe

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    @freefeet12
    The best thing anyone could do is start an "Ideas for things to practice" thread and simply post LINKS to valid instruments and teachers online with no comments.
    Then people could select the ones that suit them the best.
    - maybe that is too sensible.

    :-|
     
  10. Lambchop

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    And thank you for bringing it back to this.
    Like asking the cops to confirm their snitch is a snitch. Unproductive.
    I'm good with simply knowing that you agree with the way things were handled.
    The first one to agree :)
    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Herr Durr

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    good start... maybe someone could also do a sort of survey thread.. on what are the most popular ways to achieve our musical aims.
    i.e. learn music, whether by feeling, by theory, rote copying... all of those have their good and bad points...

    my learning started by getting some chords, then getting more complex from there.. I have barely scratched the surface on
    "theory", but for my purposes.. it hasn't really mattered that much... and not to mention the many musicians who have admitted
    they are not proficient at reading the "dots and dashes"

    I remember hearing some old Beatles outtakes where they were recording and just shouting out chords..all the embellishment
    came from their years of hard work, learning how to really express themselves through their instruments, rather than
    making some theoretical " master plan " .. cool stuff


    there there widdle choppy.. it'll all be better soon okie? I pwomise.... :mates:

    all of my lovely posts got deleted too..and I'm mighty disappointed ( lol )

    p.s. thanks for the cool screen cap.. I am adding it to my personal Herr Durr Hall of fame.. :wink:
     
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  12. I guess you didn't read any of my posts then, they all lay it all out. I am done here and will no longer participate in wasting any more of my time. There is nothing left to say, it has all been said before. If you wish to be an educator then you must learn to teach. From here on in I will ignore the ignorant.
     
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  13. MMJ2017

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    reading your posts?
    you just responded to ME, what I wrote.
    I was clarifying what you responded to.

    so you comment directly to one of my posts.
    I then go into detail for clarification.
    and that equals a waste of time? ( relax bro)
    what I just described to you had not been said before and it further clarifies that which you commented on.
    very true. what if you wish to comment directly to a person's comment , they then return a comment which further clarifies what the first was was referring to? what must we "learn to do" in that situation?
    great advice, the only difficulty lies in which method one uses in order to make such determinations.


    bro I didn't even disagree with you, and you went bananas what is happening lol?
     
  14. Lambchop

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    You mean all those "don't feed the trolls" & "plz lock this thread!!1!" posts? Next time remember to tell stealthy ninja to leave those in:dunno:
     
  15. BaSsDuDe

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    @superliquidsunshine
    Your posts are great man.
    You love all music and I love hearing from anyone that loves to investigate, explore and does it in an unprejudiced manner..
    Don't ever stop!

    That is directed at off-topic posts and arguments over things that don;t need to be argued over rather than contributions and personal likes. Off topic is good as long as it doesn't dominate and destroy the concept and is in good fun, Humor is part of the good things in life and never hurt anyone.
    That's why I made a parody of it to show that the technicalities do not matter next to the pleasure of music itself.
    :)
     
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  16. Herr Durr

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    in the desperation to be "right" let's just start making up fiction... ?
    (watch me rhyme G, why u mad bro? ) how is postin' in the body of a thread considered "snitchen" ?

    you wack choppy... get ova my brutha, we "good " now... :hahaha:
     
  17. foster911

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    One day I was posting lots of snippets in every thread. For each of my thoughts I was making one and sharing them to hear people's invaluable remarks. Some of them were quips and taunts but I gradually found out how to deal with notes and still hungry for the better solutions. They were showing what's going on inside my mind. I think it's the best approach we can do. The applicability of ideas has to be tested in reality.

    @MMJ2017 why do you insist on tedious and lengthy speeches and stories? You're talking about the theories in general but not in particular. The best way of delivering your POV to the audiences is by short examples that people can grasp them quickly. Please do that.:bow:
     
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  18. Lambchop

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    You seem to be making some pretty schizoid connections. Your begging for that thread to be locked is not snitching, simply a questionable coping mechanism, one seemingly at odds with your own suggestion:
    This being an "Education" thread, a ProTip4U: You're in a hole; stop digging.
    K Tiger?
     
  19. MMJ2017

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    hy·poc·ri·sy
    həˈpäkrəsē/
    noun
    noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies
    the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

    Source.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy

    foster911 if you had 1 brain cell left, it would hang itself with its own shoelaces.(but fail)joke by the way)
     
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