Incident at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, UK

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  1. seriousofficial

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    Any form of fanatism, whether driven by political beliefs, religion, life philosophies and even for music or for a sports team, may eventually lead to extremism. Temper any fanatism when it concerns anyone other than yourself, because any fanatic behavior may ultimately lead to extreme behavior. You may only decide for yourself to be fanatic about something and you should always respect anyone's taste, belief and opinion as long as they are no direct infraction on anyone. The moment things go wrong is when we think we are able to decide what's best for that other person without even listening to that other person. When beliefs (the word says it very correctly, it's a belief and not a 'know for certain') or political conviction is at hand, please be aware that it's an arguable point of view. Fanatism and extremism forces a point of view upon those who dare to differ from it, no dialogue, just a monologue. Hiding behind any interpretation of one of the world beliefs, political views or life philosophies bringing in arguments why your belief or interpretation is the only right one, is fanatism leading to extremism. You may have your emotions about something but never let your emotions have the better part of you. A dialogue means you are open to the point of view of the other person, a monologue clearly only defends your own uncertain belief. There is no single person walking this earth capable of taking in the superposition, seeing all and knowing all, having every answer to any question. Don't be arrogant pretending that you do coz that's when things go wrong.
     
  2. G String

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    Why is this thread not closed? Or even being moderated? It is being used for politics and bullying - things that cause other threads to be closed.

    Just because the Mods might agree with the politics and just because they might be ideologically blinded to the bullying, that's no reason not to treat it the same as other political threads or other bullying: other threads get closed and folks get told off.

    Why isn't that happening on this thread? Is it because the mods agree with it?

    Well, that isn't on. No politics means no politics..........or does it mean "no politics unless we agree with them"? And "no bullying" unless we agree with it?


    From the Forum rules:

     
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  3. Herr Durr

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    Maybe because it wasn't some British guy who was living off the fat of the Syrian government and enjoying all the "privileges" of
    living in such a worthy and "tolerant" country such as Assad's Syria??.... why don't you go fly there and hold a candlelight vigil
    if you care so much.... try it... I bet you wouldn't last a DAY !

    you're right.. humanity does F me off as well... especially the ignorance , willful blindness ,
    and suicidal sympathy for people who hate you

    This guy is considered rational, thoughtful, and very much in touch with reality in a lot of places too. Spot on .. in fact....

    You gonna be happy when the call to prayer 5 times a day is imposed on you someday ??
    I hope so
     
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  4. Herr Durr

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    too bad some cultures will never relinquish theirs.. .e.g. sharia law
    so for everyone else to drop theirs is a pollyanna-ish notion, and frankly , suicidal
    please don't perpetuate silly and useless ideas that have no connection to reality,
    it's irresponsible

    and Oly I'd be just fine if you delete BOTH of our comments...
    or ALL of them on this side topic

    I too don't care to see this nonsense
    under the nice things Horsemen brings to us
     
  5. G String

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    Are we all to understand that hate and politics are fine on the forum so long as the targets are Islam and muslims?

    Apparently so.
     
  6. Herr Durr

    Herr Durr Guest

    good point.. and did you happen to notice this week, where hatred has been expressed most clearly , and by whom?

    or have you not scanned this thread in its entirety ? or been watching the news?
     
  7. Talmi

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    In Manchester, by an extremist.
    What's your point Durr. I don't like riddles. If you have something against muslims, spit it out.
    If this thread is indeed against muslims it should be closed. It's just plain biggotery.
     
  8. Atick

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    open with a joke, always a winner...
     
  9. G String

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    I didn't know "The News" happened on this forum. I'm pretty sure what happened had occurred in Manchester, where my younger sister lives, NOT on this forum.

    The forum rules are that politics and hate have no place here.
     
  10. Atick

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    Ah yes, the lighter side of suicide bombing.
     
  11. Herr Durr

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    so... if someone tells you someday.. to stop eating ham.. parce que.. haram,
    and you refuse,.. are you going to school him in moral relativism before he forces your neck down on the cutting block?

    this is pretty much what you and people who refuse to see reality are advocating
     
  12. Talmi

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    I just don't understand your riddle. What am I advocating and from whom ?
    Speak your mind clearly. I'm simple minded.
     
  13. Herr Durr

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    @Talmi NO I won't explain further... if you are smart enough to spout everything else as you have...there is no need

    I just simply hope you get what you are arguing for...
     
  14. Talmi

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    :dunno::dunno::dunno:
     
  15. Herr Durr

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    you gotta be kidding me man....:chilling:

    More than half (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah. Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.

    Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/youl...erican-muslims-want-sharia-law/#ixzz4i5FeMVcL

    this is just a small hint.. I'm sure you can extrapolate what the ultimate goal would be...
     
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  16. G String

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    Hint: your link is to POLITICAL INSIDER.

    The forum rules say:
    Are these rules no longer applicable?

    ETA: The link provided uses "evidence" from a "think-tank" run by Frank Gaffney, whom, according to Wikipedia, is a conspiracy theorist peddling anti-Islamic junk. LINK

    The rules of the forum say that "politics", "conspiracy theory" and "hate" have no place on the forum.

    Why do those rules no longer apply? Are there any other forum rules I can now ignore?

    Without knowing what the rules are, how can members possibly act appropriately?

    Are we just supposed to guess which rules actually apply and which ones can be completely ignored?
     
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  17. michaelbrac

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    The muslims wants your land , like they said about germany.
     
  18. Von_Steyr

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    If you need to teach someone not to sexually abuse women on the streets then you pretty much fucked up already.
     
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  19. G String

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    This is an example of Nazi propaganda.
    [​IMG]

    Title:
    Jewish Congress

    Caption: “Let the Goyim believe that we can be Americans, Englishmen, Germans, or French. When our interests are at stake, we are always Jews, and nothing but.”

    July 1934 (Issue #34 Der Sturmer)


    Is anti-semitic Nazi propaganda OK to post? Or is it only open season on Islam and Muslims?
     
  20. Talmi

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    Yeah let's go there. Let's watch some videos. All we needed.
     
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