Do you believe then you will harm your chances of producing a top ten hit by using win 7 in 10 years? The reason I ask is because some people still work on Atari Personal Computers and can STILL produce stuff I can only dream about, and that is what? 30 years old or so?

 

This sentence is so far detached from reality i don't even know where to start. There is not a single bit of software i used on 10 that broke when i upgraded to 11, and i mean actual thousands of pieces of software and i'm not the only one. You don't have to like change but 11 is literally just 10 under the hood, the OS/Kernel itself is not different beyond improved memory management and CPU scheduling. If Windows were to actually start walling itself off like that it would quickly die, it's greatest strength is it's unparalleled compatibility

 

try something for Win95 which works on windows 7

 

You see now we're having two different conversations, the win95 kernel isn't the same as the NT (XP and forward) kernel tho. Of course it doesnt work. lol. There's always VMs tho! Where there's a will, there's a way.

 

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we were talking about continuous compatibility of Windows for almost 30 years without any VM which Apple didn't care to provide but Microsoft did
that was the whole point of my sentence you first commented

 

Ah, I misunderstood your comment. And I mean, that compatibility is still maintained to this day through things like running an old exe in compatibility mode for its intended OS. Theres plenty of videos of people on youtube doing just that, running win95 software natively on win10/win11 and while its not perfect by any means and doesnt always work, its still miles better than any other platform for that. MS couldn't be further from Apple in this regard.

 

Continuous compatibility for almost 30 years, this is not a plus, but minus. This is a brake on the path of development, evolution.
Microsoft cannot develop hardware, and Intel and AMD will not make software for their hardware. Apple will.
As a result, ARM RISC processors with enormous performance already exist not only for Mac, for example Ampere, but Microsoft will write software for them in the next 30 years, provided that the bunch of demand. During this time, Apple will close their line by moving to the next innovations. And you will all sit on Windows_7 (Windows XP SP1). ))

 

The same thing was said about PowerPC when Apple moved to that and we all saw how that turned out, truly great for its time, but eventually fell to wayside. Also, RISC/CISC dichotomy is effectively meaningless these days as x86 chips can perform extremely lean instructions just as ARM can perform extremely complex ones, Jim Keller (guy responsible for an absurd amount of processing improvements over the past couple decades, including Apples ARM chips, as well as AMD Ryzen) has said this much himself. ARM is only a couple years younger than x86 and it has its own forms of bloat too. They're great chips but they aren't magic.

 

As I expected, the naysayers and MAC fans have invaded the conversation, spouting their shit.
Let's just say that we Win7 users (and Windows users, for you MAC people) are just beating our meat.
Just turn away.
No one is asking you to watch, or to comment.
We are having fun. Don't let the jizz hit you one the way out.

 

Yes, evolution will take a thin, stiff twig and drive you to a new, not exhausted meadow. ))

p.s. PowerPC still flies into space, and the transition to RISC is still happening, but already on another platform. )

 

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Yes, you will not be able to stay on your chinese computer the next 30 years under Windows 7.
Again you will write such evil messages about sperm, 30 years.

 

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Well, I'm late to the party, but would love to add my 2 cents... it's all about Win7,
but ladies & gentlemen,
some developers still release software compatible with...Win XP...
who they are? Just a few to list:

TDR
Voxengo

and some of their products are on the top of market,

Name the others if you know their products

 

YES. It has been answered MANY MANY times. Exhaustively. Although the newbs STILL don't get it. Even when it is all spelled out in black and white.

 

Absolutely obtuse thinking... You got it BACKWARDS my friend. It's actually the newer win 8/10/11 OS's that you should be more worried about taking online (at least not until they have been thoroughly "optimized" for such an endeavor). Win7 needs to be gone thru and tweaked/optimized for online use as well, however it is way MORE controllable and malleable for such things than the newer systems. I will even include the newer apple OS's in with the later MS systems as far as being liabilities right out of the box for anything other than lighting up a paper weight. And most often newbs put these OS's online right out of the box, which as far as privacy, autonomy, and just plain common sense goes, is a complete and utter FAIL.

 

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Its like someone hired people to post these questions again and again, until they get to the bottom of it, or until they know what plugins still work. So that they can throttle the Dev's to make it incompatible on Win 7, and move us all to Win 10 or 11 and gather more user data and keep on selling unnecessary stuff with their ilok or wtevr bullshit.

 

Bs i have tried to install software on win 11 that i always used on win7 and it didnt work
And that is sooooo like what crapple do.
Not to mention now you need specific hardware like a specific cpu etc to use win 11 another crapple move.
So yes MS is going the apple route dont post if you havent used pc long enough (i started using windows with win 3.11) to see what happened.

 

Win 7 user here.

I have several thousands of plugins. And Reaper 6.8+
Still can install most modern plugins, newest ones from sister site uploaded nowadays.
Yes, I can't install the latest Kontakt 7, other latest NI stuff, Cubase, Nuendo, Reason12, Studio One 5+, Waves 11+, and few others (even if I have older versions compatible with Win 7, I don't use them, sometimes Waves, extremely rarely)... But I am on reaper and I have 8600+ vst and vsti (as it shows quantity while scanning) ... Need I more?

Also, you may see "compatible with Win 10 or higher, Win 8.1 and older not supported".... As a result, they just not supported, bit might work. And yes, most of them still work (about 99,5+%)...

Drivers for modern sound cards works fine too. Mostly. I have 3 cards, all of them works. Prelatest versions or so.
Win 7 is dying.... But not so fast and tragedically. Still more support and love.
It will be fine for several years, I hope. Everything of what you need still works fine and will do. Just several exceptions. Decision? Latest versions for Win7

AOM factory broke win7 support many years ago. And what? Latest versions still work, like most of newest plugins.

If you have an option to install latest OS, why not? More hope it will be supported further and for many plugins, DAWs, editors.... But even Win7 is still a good option....

Win7 is like an old bad grandpa who is 110 years old, funning, partying, smoking, drinking alco, feeling almost fine and is not ready to die

 

it's called industrial planned obsolescence.

So you're a OEM conglomerate that wishes to keep their capitalistic bullshit sales figures in the black - all you need to do is use the media to make certain it's widely publicized that using older OS's (and the hardware that goes with them) is going to bring the world to an end and the walls come crashing down around your head. When in reality all they are trying to do is sell more shit, and make you throw the old shit into a landfill which is already piled high with even older shit that you threw out 2-3 years ago. Of course the computing power per average system has increased by an order of magnitude over the last 10+ years or so, but how much power is enough and where does one say - "HEY! I have what I need", and stop listening to the industrial capitalist media telling you, "you need more and more still"!!

It works exactly the same with the current "plugin" market. We all see how much useless drivel is released on a daily basis - but how many of us ACTUALLY NEED any of it? I'm to a point now where I do not need anymore plugins (except for the UAD stuff, hint hint , and maybe a more up to date protools, when they are finally scene released). The rest of it is pretty much all white noise.

 

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In you and all other crapple fanboys dreams ypu know you have less than 10% of the computer market b.t.w apple os all about iphone ipad nowadays.

 

Exactly it took a very long time before i switch from XP to Win7 (and i only did it beacuse XP didnt support more than 3gb memory and that with a tweak it was only 2gb by default) and guess what?
It was the same debate about people still using XP
And i would have stay longer but many of my program i wanted to use needed more ram especially kontakt libs.