Hi guys! I was wondering if any of you have ever come across this issue in Ableton 11.1.6 on Windows 10 and know any fixes. I recently installed the most recent Zynaptic R2R releases of these plugins below. However, I noticed several issues with the VST3 versions of these plugins. When I load them, sometimes the plugins fail to load and sometimes they do. It is really annoying because when I load projects with these VST3 plugins I need to do so several times before Live recognizes the plugins. Anyone know a fix? Thanks! I often need to keep clicking multiple times on the same VST3 plugin before it finally loads, as the screenshot shows.

Funnily enough, the VST2 plugins work with no issues whatsoever, so I am even more confused

 

Last edited: Jul 30, 2022

No they are from the most recent R2R releases I installed all redistributables too but still no fix
On my other machine running Ableton 10 the R2R Zynaptiq VST3s work with no issue so I'm not sure if this is an Ableton 11 thing or something else

 

have they been properly introduced?

 

Yeah. All plugins installed with no issues. I even did the r2r hosts file block for zynaptiq morph and reset Ableton's plugin database multiple times

 

if Ableton Live 11 new version. Just let it open on the first run for 10 minutes (mine took almost 15 minutes) just wait and go listen to music or something, then check the Preference (after 10 minutes) and see if the plugin scan is running or not, wait until it finishes before you open the project. It looks like the slow plugin scan issue with almost all Live 11. I assumed you reinstalled the Zynaptiq plugins so it will take a while to rescan. If the plugin scan finished successfully the plugin will appear back. Be patient if you have a lot of plugins and folders attached to Live on the sidebar, it could be 20 minutes or so.

 

Last edited: Jul 30, 2022

For sure I waited until the plugin scan finishes each time and there is no rotating circle any more. Still occurs though

 

Last edited: Jul 30, 2022

Ah ok I seem to have gotten to the bottom of this issue. It might just be a problem with Ableton. I took a look at the Ableton log file in Appdata/Roaming and found this

The first instantiation of ADAPTIVERB is the one that works. The second instantiation is the one that fails. It seems it is failing in this section: 2022-07-30T17:21:52.620129: error: Vst3: No valid output bus could be found for input bus 0

2022-07-30T17:21:51.194510: info: Vst3: Going to create: ADAPTIVERB
2022-07-30T17:21:51.244455: info: Vst3: plugin processor successfully loaded: Zynaptiq 'ADAPTIVERB' v1.2.1 Build 1 (48726c3) (cid: {F5600B84-1508-4579-A12B-4F90A3328BE1})
2022-07-30T17:21:51.247325: info: Vst3: couldn't initialize controller with processor state of ADAPTIVERB: not implemented
2022-07-30T17:21:51.247341: info: Vst3: parameter count is 2121
2022-07-30T17:21:51.249380: info: Vst3: Created: ADAPTIVERB
2022-07-30T17:21:51.313984: info: Vst3: couldn't get controller state of ADAPTIVERB: not implemented
2022-07-30T17:21:52.571183: info: Vst3: Going to create: ADAPTIVERB
2022-07-30T17:21:52.620086: info: Vst3: plugin processor successfully loaded: Zynaptiq 'ADAPTIVERB' v1.2.1 Build 1 (48726c3) (cid: {F5600B84-1508-4579-A12B-4F90A3328BE1})
2022-07-30T17:21:52.620129: error: Vst3: No valid output bus could be found for input bus 0
2022-07-30T17:21:52.623018: error: Vst3: Failed: ADAPTIVERB
2022-07-30T17:21:54.702697: info: Vst3: couldn't get controller state of ADAPTIVERB: not implemented

 

Just tried FL Studio 20 latest version with these VST3 plugins and can confirm they all work as expected! No crashes and everything loads first time. I think the problem is indeed with Ableton and not these plugins, hopefully they can fix it soon.