We live in a meaningless world. A world where nothing has a meaning. The samples are also taken from this meaningless world, and putting them together will create something meaningless.

 

People would sample real drums in electronic music; because it's one of the hardest instrument/parts to create realistically, The relatively rigid quantization in early drum machines made it even more obvious it was not a real drummer. Even with all the modern tools available, the only ones that have a chance of fooling someone they are not done with a computer are still sample based.

A better rule of thumb might be not sampling directly from other peoples tracks/songs. Do whatever you want, as far as I am concerned. I'm talking about getting caught. If you think Pharrell will be the only one to get stuck paying for this kind of thing, AI is only going to get better at finding stuff for bloodsuckers with dead relatives and lawyers.

 

dont hate the player hate the game

 

Why so melodramatic? You sound like a emo teenager.

 

didn't look, not interested in anythink dopey diplo has to say about music

And if you agree with him, the truth is, you can't cheat in music cos music isn't a game, it's an Art
and you can't cheat in art, you can steal, but using samples you paid for is not stealing it's helping other musicians earn a living, i look on samples as session musicians, without sampling all those muso cats makin 'em would be out of a job

He's only doin sample packs cos he cant write very well.

I intend to steal eventually, cos it would be fun and a real challenge to make a Mozart riff etc into my own, years ago, i stole 'Oh Well' riff but played it on a keyboard, pitchbend and the patch used gives it a totally diff sound, haven't used it maybe never will, but I've earnt the right to do such things, but I have no need of using others riffs, riffs are one of my strengths

 

funny thing is you agree with him.

Why do so many people on this forum say you need to make music this way or that? This is cheating that is cheating. Using plugins is cheating, using midi is cheating blah blah blah.

There is so much grey area to life and humans have a hard time seeing it. Or just being open to input from others that there are many ways to skin a cat.

Someone else's opinion isn't a threat to your identity, its a perspective that they have gained on their path and entry point to life, art, creation. So much nuance to someones journey.

As for diplo. Hes doing something right. Hes definitely not on a forum discussing how to make music the "right way"

 

were all in music making it for why we make it. The narcism of small differences. Were out for ourselves but in it together.

 

This is why I have said I think using AI for stuff is roughly the same as using samples. It's audio content you did not make. Why is downloading samples now "acceptable" and AI sample sources are not. It's the same argument people make that crate digging from vinyl is ok, but don't dare buy a sample pack and use something like that. People making that argument are splitting hairs about where stuff they did not even make comes from.

It's all the same thing. It does not take any more skill or gear to go on a computer and ask some website to make you a loop of something, then it is to go on a website and click "download". How are we going to know that these "Sample packs". are not going to include samples made with AI anyway? These "sample makers" already lie about what they use all the time. " 808 sample pack from real 808?" from someone who has never even seen one in real life.

Even credits on real "major label records" can be bullshit. There was a video of some younger rapper's "making of the track" video, and I think it was for Sony. He wore a suit to the fully professional studio, played one drum hit, one piano chord at a time, some other elements, and that was a wrap. The tech guys assembled the song and put in his little "samples" so he could get credits on every channel of audio. That kind of thing is so commonplace, it did not even occur to them what they were really admitting to, right there on camera, for all to see.

 

I agree its all nuance. A song can be entirely made up of samples, have one sample in it, or you track down every single element.

At the end of the day the song will be squished down to the same 2 tracks as all of us. Who cares? If you enjoyed making it with the tools you want to use good on you!!

 

This statement applies to any forum and any discipline pretty much. The groundbreaking people in every area, technology, music, sculpting, painting, science, mathematics etc etc..... all learned the rules and broke them. Sure there are recipes for any style, genre or technique in any discipline, but nothing new was ever created by regurgitating what already exists.

 

i dont get why everyone is complaining about using samples let alone synthesizer presets or other presets of any vst it depends on how creative you are and what you do with it not everyone is able to make everything from scratch and you know what a lot of people here on the forum download warez from the sister site and then start complaining for using samples how ridiculous is that

 

Now I’m happy with my lot, I’ve got enough material to structure a whole track, will probably need to bring in more samples or play a few things in later on, we’ll see, up to me, I can do anything I’m capable of, whatever is best for the track.

What I’m doing here is similar to part one, but more tracks/parts are involved, I’m getting the feel for the structure, I know exactly how a track is put together, so, I’m immersed, totally absorbed, occupied only with listening intently, as I’m soloing, which parts will ‘kick in’ first, and which will come later, when I’ve susssed it, I then arrange into suitable bar lengths/sections, I may have to do some swift chopping, as there may be samples that, only a section of it works or the voice-leading is weak, but you would already be aware of that, so bosh, sorted, no probs, move on.

For me it’s about working rapidly, when grabbing stuff and putting the initial structure in place, then I’ve got all the time in the world, nether the less I want to finish it as soon as possible cos i wanna immediately start another one.

Still only about two hours work, as the structure only takes a bit of copy and pasting of those four, sometimes eight bar sections, and while I’m soloing it’s that that gives the variety, cos all the parts I mute and solo won’t necessarily be in the first section, those few bars may be turned in to a 32 bar passage so I already have maybe half a song in one fell swoop.

With me, this first bit, bringing in samples and structuring a track, is a really rapid thing, this is the bit I like most cos it happens real fast and as I speedily progress, a great piece of music gradually gets revealed and only because of my actions, I’ve pulled random unrelated samples from several packs, and transformed them into a hit.

I don’t think it’s necessarily crucial to work at pace, jus’ sayin’, and if it is, (doubt it) keep at it and you’ll soon get up to speed, it will depend on your knowledge and experience.

For me, making music is the da bees bollocks, er, dogs knees then, hmm, you know wot I mean eh, it’s exciting, invigorating, and extremely rewarding to ones wellbeing, dopamine rules my roost on a daily basis.

That’s all folks.

 

What style of music do you write?

 

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