Xp support for new softs going the way of the horse and buggy

Discussion in 'PC' started by dway, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. dway

    dway Newbie

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    2 yrs ago i read most support for xp will be discontinued buy 2014 i didn't contemplate the

    ramifications at the time i was oh well, that's just microsoft i didn't fully comprehend at the time

    that most software publishers would be abandoning it as well. lol Now im an early adopter type of guy

    as you've probably seem me champion a number of products here such as event 2030's, Openlabs Hardware Neko/Miko ,

    Arturia Keylab/Spark, MPC Studio, Beat Thang Hardware, If they lived up to the hype is subjective and

    for the General Public to decide NI Mashine Hardware Studio, Nektar Reason Controller

    The point is all my favorite toys are now relegating themselves to win 7 64 bit

    it's only a matter of time before there won't be any 32 bit support, at least that will solve all this

    mix and matching jbridgeing crazyness,lol So im looking at my Miko Lxd5 and I don't want to play with it

    because iv'e built this other production behemoth, with the aforementioned,gear all except the maschine

    studio which i would buy but it's not given me any type of incentive to double up on all the expansions that's out.

    If only they wasn't so rigid with thier copyright schemes and at least let the hardware read the cracked

    expansions,lol and they're all halfpriced untill Dec 9th, because they can't air tight their protection schemes ala cubase 7

    and Reason 7, now my Miko sits there a perfectly great production workstation that's stuck in Win Xp land and can't play with anybody.

    hopefully i can get Openlabs to upgrade it for me to bring it into todays production game, They wanted

    so much 2yrs ago i couldn't afford it hope thev'e become more

    reasonable.
     
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  3. angie

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    speaking of win xp problems..does anyone else have problems with the latest version of MPC-HC? i get os restarts on that version (tried on multiple xp pcs)..keep in mind im using SP2, so, i guess mpc-hc might have dropped support without saying anything. the last version that works find is the september.12th.2013 version (can remember revision #) should i send them a note?
     
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    I didn't get that impression, dway. [^ topic]

    I have Windows 7 x64 on the 2nd PC and it's just not as reliable as XP for me. However, you are right. That will change at some point, and that point is when they start concentrating more on churning out proper x64 builds and forgetting about 32-bit altogether. It should've happened already... already years ago, actually, but most of the developers are still learning how to write proper multi-threaded software that does proper parallel DSP processing, also. It's mostly due to programmers not being able to deliver quality x64/m-t software that this whole x64/multi-threaded revolution is taking so long. That's why I still consider the whole x64/m-t systems/software a beta testing that you're willing or not [meaning forced] to participate in.

    Thankfully I still do quite fine with XP32. I don't need to use more RAM and I'm careful about what plugins I use and most frankly - I don't need any more plugins, just less, :) and I need the ones I use as bugless as possible. If there are no serious bugs, it can be used for years and years to come without any updates. Sometimes...hmmmm often updates bring new bugs with them, so one should be careful about the updates, too. I sometimes find that a previous version of some plugin is better to use than the last version and that has nothing to do with XP or W7, just sloppy programming.

    Cheers!
     
  6. dway

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    it's just my new softs analoglab, cubase 7, reason 7, mpc studio spark 1.7, Nektar Controller, it just catches me off guard when i have plans for gear and softs and read the specs and see windows 7 as the min requirement and it seems it's happening more and more :dunno: and Ni Maschine Studio 2.0 i think, that's crazy when the upgrade switches operating systems :snuffy:
     
  7. SillySausage

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    XP will still be around, it ain't gonna just stop because MicroSilly are not going to continue providing updates and support. Future old school set-up? :wink:
     
  8. Catalyst

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    The problem is that with the already weaker security in XP coupled with unpatched exploits is a disaster waiting to happen. That in addition to slowly not being able to install certain applications without annoying extra work. :(
     
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    maybe weaker security, just need to beef up the antivirus/firewall software etc. I have an old dell d610 with xp, running reaper and guitar pro 4 plus other guitar fx and it works great, yes it won't run the latest software, but it is still very usable.

    You need to stop looking at all that naughty porn, that's where all the nasties are, it will make you go blind you know :rofl:
     
  10. xoso

    xoso Kapellmeister

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    Win XP, I usually laugh when people say they still use it, most of them are friends that are gamers and swear by it till I run the same program on Win8 and it uses less resources, loads faster, and ultimately has better performance.

    Personally I'm happy, making app's more compatible with XP seems to make them less compatible with Win8. Not to mention XP isn't that stable at all. They may have updated and pathed the crap out of it but still doesn't reach the reliability of Win2000.

    Eitherway the more people who move to X64 the less and less XP is used. XP is a relic, that had it's run, but people need to stop making newer programs work worse on current operating systems so people can keep their fantasy about it being reliable. And for the most part the loudest people who back XP are usually those who refuse to use Win7/8 or tried using it for an hour and didn't like their standards being changed. so ultimately their opinion is biased. That and alot of people are still butthurt about Vista, and assume anything after that is crap like vista is. Win7 works better than XP and Win8 works better than 7 just less comparability because as mention people trying to make things XP compatible.

    So to each their own, but the delusion of XP being the end all OS is just that, a delusion. Let go and accept the change.
     
  11. dokx1

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    I'm sure the advantages of XP do not outweight the adavantages of Win7, the latter outperformes XP in almost all important domains. Just check the dozens of benchmarks which were performed.


    But if people want their lives to be more complicated than neccessary, why not. :wink:
     
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