All my homies hate Vital, real homies F with Serum 2.

 

yup those two seem to be the most cpu hogging for me if i do more than 1 cell with fx, the modulation not so much for me at least.

looks like an easy workaround is to just use serum 2 fx.

i finally pulled myself away from loading samples and sfz files , and currently having a blast with the drumkits and clips . id say they put a lot of the nerve vst dna into it.
drumkits get weird at 40-60bpm if syncing by host as well

also
sforzando vst converts sf2 to sfz!1!

 

Last edited: Mar 22, 2025 at 8:13 PM

Haha I must confess I hate Vital a bit too
Just because developer dropped win7 users

 

sure and an altruist doesn't sell for $250 something like SErum it's seems wrong

 

im too lazy to do it , so can someone make a serum 2 thread just about the new and interesting thing discovered in it?

there's way too much arguing and cracking talk here


saw this an hour ago , and i think you can also use it as a limited fl slicer for drums as well
https://youtube.com/shorts/bFb7jdyL0Lg?si=GVaM_Ktd7pvI6qFt
Serum 2 Granular Slice and Reese Lock.

using everything to modulate everything
https://www.tiktok.com/@nest.acoust...1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7393366295570384430

 

Last edited: Mar 22, 2025 at 9:53 PM

I’ve noticed that a certain fact flies under most people’s radar, which is that developers like Steve and Urs actually allow people to use their software for free, indefinitely, with a slight downside, which is a time-out after 15-20 min (Serum) and slight noise (u-he).

Before I was able to purchase Diva, that’s how I used it for several months. I composed several bits and sketched out several ideas using it that way and even exported them without the noise. Had the plugin emitted silence instead of noise, then it would have been unusable for composing.

In my teenage years, this would have been a Godsend. They could have limited the trial to just 14 days and been done with it, but I’m certain they’re taking kids who can’t afford to pay 150-250$ for a plugin into consideration and I highly respect that. Noise getting into a long bounce? Bounce it as several pieces and stitch the good parts together. What’s the DAW for?

Compared to companies like UA (of which I am a user (UAD, not just native)), it feels nice to not get spit on by a company I support, all while making it seem like they’re doing me a favor. Plus, they're the ones doing most of the work (Steve, Urs), unlike with companies like UA.

Of course this feature isn’t very useful for mixing/effect plugins, but then again, all DAWs have more than enough built-in effects for people who can’t afford more, and they’re included in the low-tier versions like Cubase Elements, Live Lite, etc… but for instruments I think it’s great.

Besides, Steve could have charged 5$ for the upgrade and made a serious amount off of upgrades alone. Who would have stopped and thought twice before paying?

I much prefer the sound of Diva and Repro over Serum and I wish u-he would offer either RTO or do sales more often, but I’m grateful that both let me use their wonderful creations, which take an absolute shitload of work to do properly (all that math ain’t no joke), without me having to pay anything, until I can afford to remove a slight noise or a time-out (I’m already on the RTO for Serum but had to pause it).

So, yeah, that AND free updates AND upgrades AND no price increase for people already on the RTO plan. In a sense, he is an altruist, or at least, very ethical. Doesn’t mean he needs to miss out on what he deserves to get. I know hard work and more importantly, intelligent work when I see it. This is the kind of work that deserves to be compensated. Just my opinion.

 

Last edited: Mar 22, 2025 at 10:53 PM

My post said "related income" from v1, like sales revenue; not "Spent" on v2. Where did you see that? He was responding to a question about piracy, and the point was that he has made a quality product and made very good money from it, without being iLok'd or using some other intrusive copy protection. That is not altruism; it's what someone can do when they make a great product, and by not screwing up its performance in effort to squeeze every last nickel like others do.

What would he "spend millions" on v2 for? I do not really watch a lot of Youtube, but I did not see any ads or other marketing for it at all.

 

I think Steve Duda does truly care about the community, but his decision to make it a free update was also pragmatic.
When you bought Serum1 it said free updates for life.

He had 2 options.

1.) Say that didnt include a major version upgrade / rename it, and try to get full price.
Pros: Get full price for new sells, and also some $$$ for upgrades from 1 -> 2
Cons: Piss some people off and have a negative vibe around your release date. Not nearly as many people would be showing it off right now.
People would be flipping out about CPU performance after laying down another 200 bux

2.) Make the update free.
Pros: Insane amount of hype and youtube videos (free advertisement), positive image for your synth.
People cant complain as much about bugs.
Become de facto standard for modern wavetable synth, and the first thing new producers turn to.
Cons: ??? a little bit less money up front? He saved the money he would have made on the other
option by getting free marketing.

 

I would also like a thread for wishlist / feature requests.

 

uh , you do you and i'll make a note to avoid that thread

 

Code:

till bored? How about having fun by testing Serum2 releases by other groups?
They are trying to crack without solving [famous encoding], [famous crypto],
[famous hashing]. Not only the Steve's timebomb, you need to fight with the
bugs which cracker added. Let's hope someone will make some real effort to
reverse their licensing system ;)

witches prove my message

 

That other thread mentions not putting it on xfer's forum because it is too busy. Probably true. They are probably swamped with customer tech support requests. " I just paid $175 for this thing and you have to fix it right now, because..." But do anyone really want to be the "Thanks for the upload, but what about..." guy? The "AAX?" guy job pays more money because it is for Protools.

"here's all the stuff we could have suggested during beta testing, if we had paid for it yet" guy might not get a great reaction.

Isn't this what they did with the Bypass Everything Technology version?

 

Last edited: Mar 23, 2025 at 12:22 PM

i dunno what to tell ya , its literally been a week since release and probably going to be a week or two for a stable scene release.
nobody is forcing anybody to purchase it , nor use it , nor as far as i know owed anything from teams and people in the scene cracking it.

all i know is we are still finding interesting things about serum 1 , and ive been all night throwing hundreds of impulse responses into serum 2 fx and discovered it also functions as good as guitar rig 4 , and a simplified audio ease speakerphone.

grabbed awave studio along with cdextrakt and im planning on dusting off my akai iso external hd and making some sfz's from some of my favorites this week

 

"Great! Steve is successful! Let's steal his software! Because his richdom makes it alright! Plus we can't stand other peoples success anyway."

 

They will get it eventually. I quickly scanned the thread you were saying you would avoid. A decent guess might be that if the guy spent something like the last 6 months or whatever, working on the synth; he might not be all that receptive to a bunch of feature requests to be copied from a free plugin that is a knockoff of his to start with.

Earlier, I was looking at prices to print a hard copy of the manual. It is 355 pages and loaded with info; some of it not solely applicable to Serum. Average is about $35.00-ish with shipping, cheaper online than locally.

People have been complaining about CPU usage, so I went into the global menu looking for a "run optimized" option like the Roland Cloud plugins. From the manual (or tooltips)

Setting the Quality

You can specify the quality (oversampling) in Serum.
You can further disable smoothing, as needed, and enable Serum 1 preset compatibility.
Choose the oversampling quality settings using the drop-down menu.
Draft quality sets 1x oversampling (no oversampling). High quality sets 2x oversampling, while Ultra results in 4x oversampling.
Click the button to lock the quality settings, even when you load a new preset.
This means that when locked, Serum ignores the quality configuration in the preset and uses the settings that you have locked.

Every preset can have its' own quality configuration. It is loading every preset I have looked at from S1, and others s2 "factory", as 2x Oversampling. I always leave OS off until I am bouncing.

 

the V.R./TCD version fixes all but one malfunction that is currently present in ALL releases. the "matrix" issue which is a rather funny looking bug when it's bell is rung. Found out about this one on the V.R./TCD thread. Won't be using S2 just yet for production until it's fixed...

 

I want to know what are the minimum requirements for PC?
ie. CPU (single/multi core), RAM ... ?

 

Last edited: Mar 24, 2025 at 11:18 AM

The minimum system requirements for Xfer Serum on PC are:

- CPU: Intel Core i5-8400 or AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
- RAM: 12 GB
- Operating System: Windows 10 (64-bit)
- Free Disk Space: 15 GB
- Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8 GB), AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 (8 GB), or Intel Arc A750 (8 GB)

Additional requirements include:

- CPU with SSE2 support
- 64-bit VST2.4, AU, or AAX compatible host software

 

Here's a fun preset i made, showcasing the craziness of spectral oscillator + diffusor filter + bode etc. Really chaotic preset. Useful for resampling, or crazy color bass and other experimental bass genres. Use and automate all the macros. Mp3 attached of me just holding down 1 note and messing about with the macros.

 

Interesting that they recommend a GPU for audio works...