Hey guys,
I started to think about “playing” with my DAW on my Home PC via Remote on the way.

So I found a pretty cool software called SonoBus. You can google it.
I read, that you can stream your Audio via Network per Host to a client. They also provide a VST Plugin.

I have a IPad Pro 13” and already tried out classic RDP to my Windows and opened Bitwig in Tablet Mode.
That was already pretty cool and has enough potential to bring me some fun. Nothing big serious.
Touch worked really good. Working with the Plugins in Touchmode is really cool.
But the RDP is really laggy and slow and RDP also not famous for realtime audio.

So does somebody know a Remote Software where I can directly use my Home PC DAW on my IPad, or at least a Remote Software which is really snappy and I would test together the SonoBus Software.

Maybe someone has some inspiration for this small hobby project

 

Unfortunately not on iPad, but on macOS and Windows Parsec is a really good remote desktop, it's fast enough to play games and (depending on connection) can feel like sitting in front of the remote machine itself.

Edit: And it can deliver uncompressed PCM audio if the bandwidth is sufficient.

 

Parsec is great and probably the best (least latency) option if it's available for your platforms. I've used AnyDesk to work on Windows machines from phones and tablets before, and that was very snappy too. Snappy enough to co-op medium-paced games. Available on every platform. More recent versions are pretty obnoxious about buying a license from them though.

 

RDP is terrible but very resource efficient for lightweight remote, handy for troubleshooting, but also breaks audio engine (locked to 44.1k samplerate, can't bridge ASIO, may interrupt audio on logon/logoff session),

Sunshine (Windows) + Moonlight (PC/Mac/iPad/iPhone) offers high performance low latency remote desktop (good enough even for playing games),

VNC (server/client, native in MacOS) offers remote screensharing with control (no audio though),

Newtek NDI Tools offer video/audio (VST plugin on Windows, or OBS integration, cameras, phones etc...) streaming over network (no control though),

Reaper's ReaStream VST plugin provides low latency (multichannel) lossless audio (and/or MIDI) send/receive over network,

if you want just audio streaming, then (paid) Airfoil (MacOS only) + Airfoil Satellite works,

for internet bridging stuff mentioned above, Tailscale delivers zero-config VPN, or you can selfhost VPN server with DDNS or static public IP,


fingers crossed for the project!
from my experience on the topic (started around Covid), you'll end up with a combination, maybe tablet/phone for control, perhaps DAW in a virtual machine without physical audio interface, then separate computer device as audio receiver, and maybe even separate laptop for MIDI control/keyboard remote,
you'll need solid reliable fast network infrastructure to prevent lags/bugs, for wireless AP you definitely want at least WiFi 6 2x2 MIMO, and for wired network no less than 1Gbit

 

Thanks for your feedback guys. Tailscale looks nice as a VPN.
I just tested Jump Desktop because many people praise it. But I did not like. Connecting to Windows was already a mess because of Alt Strg Remv

And the Touch functions were not „delivered“ to the host.
Windows RDP looked pretty clear, but Jump Desktop not.

So i will test me through some more Softwares

 

Parsec vs Moonlight (2 years old video though):

 

They have a Logic remote app that works on ipad connected to the Mac via bluetooth. I tested it out for a little while and I did not like using it at all, but many people give good reviews of it. It's working smoothly and well-programmed like you would expect from Apple. Using it as a touch screen for the Logic RemixFX plugin especially, or the Korg Kaos pad and with other x/y style plugins is ok. But it was about 90% letdown from what I had expected.

If you find something for your ipad; maybe you could return with any suggestions.

 

It may help for RDP :
https://sysadmin-central.com/2021/0...uality-and-remove-delays-over-remote-desktop/

And a "new" contender :
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/remotix-vnc-rdp-near/id407498378?platform=ipad

 

I've used TeamViewer and Parsec over the last few years, but only use teamviewer as a backup nowadays. Here's my take on each:

Teamviewer

Pros: Easy to setup, audio quality and speed is acceptable for most things (like a 256kb mp3), has drag and drop features between host and remote computer.

Cons: Terrible nag screen that assumes commercial usage, even when your using for personal. They will limit your account and try and force you to buy a license.


Parsec

Pros: Full lossless audio quality, fastest speed (nearly real-time depending on connection). Free.

Cons: Setup is less user friendly, lacks native 'host/remote file management' tools like file transfer or drag and drop features. Requires a good connection/decent bandwidth to avoid disconnects.

 

if you want a free alternative to it, RustDesk is amazing