I would love to go back to 7 from 10 on a laptop that was originally 8. IS there a credible link with necessary steps?
Win 7 PRO keys from ebay will work after tweaking steps outlined on Black Viper?

 

I think you can buy any windows10 license from pro/enterprise (not home maybe) and then upgrade with the "trick" I provided in my last message. If I remember well, windows10 supports any version upgrade/downgrade path, so your key will be still valid...Maybe you can even install it from scratch with a pro/enterprise key? Better is to look for answers on mydigitallife forum instead of here : they are real windows specialists.

Again, take care that windows LTSB doesn't exist in 1703 OS version (Windows 10 build 15063.xxx v1703, aka creator's update) but in v1607 only.

PS: downloading a windows ISO or torrent is fully legal, it's the authorization process/key that matters.

You can but I think you will lose your files and apps : if you pass the "30 days limit" or deleted the windows.old folder, it will only work as a fresh install. Steps are easy just load the ISO/CD and run setup.

 

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Since it is a cracked version I firmly believe it is a bit hard to get it in a store. MS will *never* release a version like that. The whole point of Windows 10 is selling subscriptions, MS Webstore and other money making POS. The only way to get a somehow proper Windows 10 is through torrent cracked versions. I am personally using cracked W7 on my main computer because it is just so nice and lean, "lite" version. I do have a license, though, but I'm not using it as W7 legal installation is crap in my eyes. By default it uses too much of everything and you need a couple of hours to adjust it for audio and it's still not as good as this lite version.

Remember one thing: no company is ever concerned with what audio professionals need! All they are concerned about is money. We are just a couple of percent of users. They don't give a flying fuck about latency and real time performance that we need. That's why it is best to use a cleaner and leaner version. Cracked or not, IDG a F. Really.

 

Just download some under 2GB lite and recent version of W7 from some torrent site [TPB?] and install it over it. Happy camper.

 

That's supporting what I've been saying the whole time and my benchmarks. Every newer version of Windows is worse than the previous one regarding audio performance. Don't trust the MS shill websites. If you don't trust what I'm saying try installing W7 with some plugins, benchmark, try W10 with the same plugins, benchmark. I did it with XP, W7 and W8. The performance got progressively worse up to 30%. XP is the best for audio, if you can use it. If not, W7 is the second best. If not, W8 is the third best.

 

Any torrent will do (murphy78 being the best imho), or again,
on mydigitallife forum there are all the existing windows ISOs (languages, versions etc.) to download.
It is not cracked or illegal at all : they are just proper microsoft ISOs, then how you authorize (KMS etc. or real key you bought) is what matters.

 

Those reporting increased performance is the opposite of my experience with win10.
I've found it to be snappier in general use and S1 v3 runs noticeably faster.

Perhaps some optimising for music apps would have helped.

 

The Enterprise N 2016 LTSB version I have came pre authorised. No need for keys or activation. Works fine.

 

Would you mind providing access to the torrent you downloaded?

 

Would you mind providing access to the torrent you downloaded too??

 

Sorry, links to warez and cracks aren't allowed to be posted here

 

@Mynock I get all my "testing" OS'es from the teamos forums. Torrents and file hosting links.... Like audioz but for Win releases. And with torrents too. Legit and scene

 

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The bloatless LTSB version can be found here for 90 day use, only security updates and a little bit of spying

Code:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise

Enter fictional company information then select LTSB

 

has anyone tried these versions?
windows-10-lite-edition-v4-x64-2017-preactivated-by-whitedeath

Are they suitable for a daw?
would be great to hear views. Thanks!

 

Don't install evaluation versions, none of the proper working KMS solutions work on evals, all the regular 2016 LTSB editions are available for months now

It's up to you...any W10 edition would be suitable for DAW use. Personally I would avoid customized/stripped down Windows versions. If you want "light", go for W10 LTSB, (or Windows Server 2016), they are light and "untouched".

 

a friendly advices:
1) all Windows "N" versions are missing media features, so plenty things such as Ozone 8, DaVinci Resolve will not even launch (!)
2) evaluation versions can be KMS'ed of course, but Windows 10 as it is now is not worthy using longer than grace period (LOL)
3) probably sleekest version of Windows 10 you can find is "Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB x64 v2 lite (by ivankehayov)" yet I cannot tell how reliable it is to be used in the long run
4) reliable (studio) rig = no internet connection or at least heavily controlled network traffic (using apps such as Little Snitch, Windows 10 Firewall Control etc..)
PS: apologies for my previou post here about Windows 10 N, as I tested overtime, it is NOT a suitable solution for audio/video workstations :/

 

1) Not true...Ozone8 working perfectly here with LTSB N as media composer, after effects and so on (don't have Resolve)...
2) This is not proper KMS then !
3) Again, I personally would avoid customized versions.
Imho LTSB is light enough, especially with newest/fast computers (I bet the difference between PRO and LTSB is small in term of performances). LTSB it is the way to go for stability and to avoid major updates and related problems (+ disabling MS telemetry is only possible in Enterprise editions, like LTSB).
Also if ever I had to choose a particular version over a .ISO it would be from an "established" person on My Digital Life forum, like Murphy78 (he has a LTSB "privacy" edition for exemple). This is THE site for everything "Windows related".
4) When I agree on being offline, some of us can't all the time. But I'm not sure it's beneficial to use 3rd party programs (for windows10). I use windows10 built-in firewall and it works as it should(and disabled telemetry of course). Maybe I'm an "advanced" user, but for me it seems using 3rd party apps breaks the "light" goal.
5) So, my advice for all is use your brain, and learn your tools.

 

1) then most likely you installed Media feature pack separately:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...k-for-windows-10-n-and-windows-10-kn-editions
2) maybe your sources are less effective than mine then
3) true, that's why I said I cannot tell on reliability
4) check that utility I mentioned (it works also on Win7) - do not get discouraged by the look of the site though:
http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html
5) I learned about too many mistakes Microsoft did with Windows, those are un-fixable, hence why I went Hackintosh path completely

 

1) hahaha no...burn me if I did! But of course I have Quicktime (mandatory for media composer), and vlc installed...that's all.
2) mmm...won't enter that route bro. I just copied a link from a fellow MDL member (I'm an active member there too) https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...flexible-updates-no-modern-apps.63112/page-28 That is (and as you said firstly), KMS activation on evaluation version doesn't work properly, as you can't activate past the 180days. We say the same thing.
4) I know it and it's very good! It literally blocks everything...but,as I said, I don't have personally the use of it.
5) That's why I was doing the "advocate" for LTSB, it has the benefits of W10: updated kernel and drivers, new features etc. without the hassle : clean/light (no background apps etc.) and mega stable. I tried Windows 1703 and 1709, which on the opposite are fully bugged, full of un-fixable errors, and bloated with useless sh...I can't agree more. Anyway I +++ you on Hackintosh, as much as I went the same path too (Apple refusing to replace our Mac Pro after the motherboard dying a second time in a row) It was quite a pain to build though, much reading , but as it is, if you want a real "clean" windows system.

Anyway all opinions are of value, just wanted to oppose mine (seeing information about Ozone8 not working on "N" version).
Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't for other, same as "inverting" with me getting it to work.

Finally, we are on an "audio" forum, what has windows media features to do with audio production/software? or I maybe lost something?

 

I'm using LTSB N and have zero problems. I've upgraded my 3 laptops and two studio PCs to win10 and will never go back to 7, and btw f*** 8.1. Win10 is the s***. I'm coming from way back during Win95 (actually, 3.1).

If you want picture preview and media player to be added back into your OS, then download the MS Media add-on pkg for LTSB-N.

10 = 7.......8.1.....xx RIP xx