Windows 10 what to know?

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  1. Von_Steyr

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    You know eventually someone,somewhere will say fuck it,lets make an OS for audio production.
    Trust me,its not that hard,can be done,its not f-ing magic,someone is probably working on it right now.
    Without all the clutter,unneeded additional coding,programs etc,just a pure workhorse for audio.
     
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  2. spacetime

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    there was a production os a few years ago, Ubuntu Studio :) cool idea but little traction

    unfortunately very few companies develop professional software for linux, its about time they do, too little money in it


    id be satisfied with a paid update or overlay for w7

    i dont care as long as its compatible with everything i use
     
  3. Sylenth.Will.Fall

    Sylenth.Will.Fall Audiosexual

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    What a lot of people still don't know is that there are 2009 POS Microsoft updates running for XP until 2019. When that runs out Win7 will become the major choice for banks, etc. The bottom line is you can expect updates for Win 7 until 2024/2025 at least.

    For anyone who WANTS to run XP safely with continuous updates, just follow this:-

    create a text file with a .reg extension and the contents below:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\PosReady]
    "Installed"=dword:00000001

    Run it by double-clicking in Windows Explorer.

    Then get updates as you would the old fashioned way.
     
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  4. Sylenth.Will.Fall

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    That would be a really good idea.
     
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  5. Pinkman

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    While Jasmine and yabiss make absolutely valid points, we should all keep in mind that while corporate entities may strive to attain personal information from whatever desktop operating system, they already have access simply from the fact that most of us have cellular phones.

    With the integration taking place between smartphones and desktop computers the way it is, having access to a handheld device that can access your desktop is the same as having access to said desktop.

    Not to sound paranoid or anything.

    I haven't even started on anti-social networking.
     
  6. Sylenth.Will.Fall

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    That's very true
     
  7. Sylenth.Will.Fall

    Sylenth.Will.Fall Audiosexual

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    My old typewriter is better than MS windows.
     
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  8. Pinkman

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    My fountain pen is UNIX.
     
  9. Talmi

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    That is a valid point, bottom line is it's a choice. I don't have a smartphone. I have an old portable phone, just GSM, it is obviously not integrated with my computer. And I use Win7, to me it's a working environement.
    People don't question their practice, which is mostly what they should do here. None of that crap would be dominating their life if they weren't willing to be permanently connected and to expose themself to the www 24h a day through their smartphone or to have a communication/spying service instead of an Operating System (that's an OS). I don't need all that, I don't feel I'm missing anything, but the price to pay for all of us, including me, is pretty high. I don't want to sit on my privacy for useless features. That's also why I take this debate at heart, people who defend all that development trend of OSes are objectively screwing everyone else.
    Tough choices will have to be made by many in the future - although I don't consider cuting the link to the social media a chore for me it's a relief - because yes, some people or some companies will always be willing to use for their own profit the narcissist needs of a lot of folks. They give away their privacy - it's a freedom too, the right to not be watched and monitored - for a few twinkles and then what will be next ?

    PS : I'm amazed that people actually don't take this more seriously. What if your governments were to use the same devices and communication networks (that mostly they control) to monitor you ?
    That's a lot less sexy and entertaining than A$$le or M$ doing it, but there is nothing that tells you that those companies won't and don't cooperate with governments. And government don't only watch bad guys. They watch everyone - if they can - to find out who is the bad guy. Which is exactly what's happening with the NSA, who have agreements with all the big companies in the state (and that's been proven by recent Snowden and co cases).
    The only regime that previously monitored their entire population without valid (legal that is) reasons were and are the one that we call authoritarian state. And it ain't pretty. There are a lot of excellent movies about those states. They usually depicte life in Eastern Europe and further. Try Das Leben Der Anderen (the lives of others). Nice avant-gout.

    Land of the free and all that...Right.
     
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    Sombody did this already and it failed miserably. It was called BeOS and was focused on multimedia pprimarily… remember?
     
  11. Von_Steyr

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    Yes i remember,but time goes on and things happen,you never know....
     
  12. Pinkman

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    Phones used to be expensive as hell as was the service, let alone the data. But that was because that was what made the money.
    Now it's information. Advertising. Data mining for profiling and targeting customers. So the price of all the hardware goes down because the value is in the service.
    Subsidized prices and contracts..? No. It's a hit they were willing to take because in the long run it brings a greater amount of revenue from multiple sources like sponsors and marketing agreements than a single retail purchase from a customer.

    The same still applies now, it's just the software that they are giving away. Apple's been doing it for a while now. Rolling out free upgrades. MS squeezed everything they could out of paid VISTA / 7 / 8 upgrades and now are following suit.

    It's all about the money. The big guys can just afford to wait a little longer for an infinitely smaller stream of it than your average person can and still profit.

    Loss of freedom is seen as virtual awareness nowadays. It's all on how we're told to look at it.

    Also, even if you're using GSM your SMS and MMS still come through a data portal. Wireless companies don't always tell you but every single cellular phone number has an attached email account provided by the carrier. This is simply how the messaging systems function. I was a Tier 3 Data Tech for four of the major carriers.
    It's also how you can text anyone's cell phone with an SMS or MMS even if you don't have access to a mobile phone.
    You simply email [email protected] or [email protected]

    This applies to every wireless carrier in the world. All the GATEWAYS.
     
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  13. Andrew

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    @SineWave Where are you? :rofl:

    On topic, to even be called an upgrade, Windows 10 would have to offer actual real world advantage over former OS. Apart from the usual marketing claims - harder, better, faster, stronger there seems to be no benefit other than DirectX 12, which only few games currently utilize.
    As Win10 fails to fulfill even the most rudimentary requirement of being superior to former versions, it cannot call itself an upgrade. On the other hand, the level of intrusiveness, permanent visual schemes, high HDD requirements, etc. would grant it title "downgrade" which seems about right.
     
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    @Pinkman Sure but I can turn mine off and know it's really off. So that's a plus.
    And the harwdware price went down because factories were sent elsewhere where it's cheaper, it's not information that makes money yet, far from it, wait for the bubble to blow. They put they investment in it, and now because they want to have a turn back (which they yet don't have, and investing more money in crappy 2.0 companies won't change that), they are trying to force changes in the consumers practices to make this economical system viable which it is not. It will be a huge fuck up.
    But it is indeed about the money. One more reason for people to fight against it they have nothing to gain.
     
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    What I also remember is Microsoft being heavily involved in BeOS' demise. They bought it or something and then binned it, because they felt BeOS was a threat to them. That's actually standard Microsoft's practice: buy and bin your enemies. They can't do that with Linux, though! :winker: BeOS actually resurrected again recently here. But I don't think it's ever going to be as strong as it used to be. :sad:

    Besides, a nice handful, but a handful of great and well known developers, have recently started porting their plugins to Linux, so my guess is we'll be using Linux after Windows 7. Be it now, in a couple of years, or 5 years, or more, it's your choice to choose when, and you can even choose the GUI and the theme you like, file system, programs for file management... you can't do that on Windows. Rejoice! Good times ahead! :wink:
     
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    @Andrew You are so consumer centric in your thinking. What if the Win10 OS is a superior form of surveillance platform. I'll bet you if you didn't hobble your camera/mic it can monitor your facial expressions and tone of voice and therefore emotions, correlated to what the screen is displaying millisec, by ms. That's a superior improvement. Just not for a consumer. Though it's paranoid for a person to feel the need to watch everyone, if a government does it, it's fine. Okie, dokie.

    @Talmi "What if your governments were to use the same devices and communication networks (that mostly they control) to monitor you ?" The irony.

    @Von_Steyr Nah, no OS writing for me. Remember the joke with my bro is, I'm the tool user, and he's the tool maker, and OS nowadays are HUGE. I'm hoping for a bitcoin plus crowdfunded like collaboration, but those guys will be immediately infiltrated and co-opted, so it doesn't look good. I have my acoustic guitar, so if the "lights go out," if necessary, I'll trade services for an upright piano, and play my guitar.

    My son is starting to program, I'll see how it goes for him. I told him the last things that will be automated are computer scientists like my bro, (he's sweating, he's just stoic and doesn't show it most of the time) and "hands on ppl at point of sale." (I didn't say the obvious, he's 15, and because my Pepper robot/RealGirl hybrid is nye*! woo hoo, so I told him ppl like social workers, quack-[psy]chologists, Paramedics, cops, teachers (but early education, I did HS and it was just prison training), etc. Not many good choices there. Though if anyone can suggest a field, I'm open to suggestions. I google "last jobs to be automated" and I get only jobs to be automated.)

    Most Docs think they are safe, and that couldn't be further from the truth. My own psychiatrist has noticed the restrictions imposed on him tightening, dx, rx, and filling out forms like a robot. I said, "uh doc, you notice your discretion being taken away from you right? He said, "well, there are parallels to the old Soviet Union." I looked at him, like, "you understand what you just said?"
    http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine
    http://www.techinsider.io/high-salary-jobs-will-be-automated-2016-3
    http://www.techinsider.io/ray-kurzweil-most-extreme-predictions-2015-11

    In the end, just enjoy what you have now, cause just hoping because all prior futurists were completely wrong, doesn't mean we may get a pass on this one...

    At the same time, consider, I'm a little shocked today, learning from my attorney, that my wife stated in court papers, she was sold to me by her mother.^ What exactly does a person have to do to get a mandatory psych eval, I'm thinking...so apologies if I'm my usual wacky.
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    *http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sex-robots-could-biggest-trend-7127554
    With the whole sexbot thing, they're obviously creepy, but it comes down to what level of creepy is acceptable to reduce all the suffering and legal exposure if you don't have enough money for point of sale professionals? There is the rub, and even though Pepper the robot comes with a non-sex agreement (or use in porn) I know she's getting hammered somewhere, right now.
    ^I did, before dating her, take her and her mother out to dinner and ask her mother if I could "court" her. That was also after checking the law! Not gonna do a Joey Buttafuoco, I was just maximizing for best possible eggs and therefore strongest kids (it turns out, the youngest, least exposed to the environment...simple.) If you don't remember, I married her 10 days after she was 18. If you think that's predatory, think then why isn't it for a Cougar? (Cougars are actually successful 1% of the time...so it's all propaganda. ha!)
     
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  19. spacetime

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    i like how audiosex threads escalate :)
     
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    They escalate, but I have a feeling the whole atmosphere around it is quite a bit friendlier than on some well known other audio forums. Kinda like having a friendly and at times a bit heated discussion with some chaps down at the pub over a pint. :wink:
     
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