Why do producers use old windows skin?

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    @Fudsey Plange that's what i mean about glasses! ....she looks like a guy without hers on. and they do wonders for her complexion too. I wonder if i can find a similar pair with a purple wig attached ? :rofl:
     
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    LOL I found mine in a webstore. Real men wear pink glasses! :hahaha:
     
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    now where is my Atari ST1040 theme again :bleh:
     
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    Win 10 customisation = change the background picture.

    How much more minimalist a POS does anyone want?
     
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    if the skin in 7 would be so bad as to use massive amounts of resources to hinder production steinberg would have abondend it.
    what it does, on particular older and systems with no or bad tweaks, is cause cpu spikes while animating explorer and other os things. this bad audio implementation lies with win in general.
    osx with core audio gives devs better or deeper acces to system resources.
    realtime audio was always "difficult" to implement on win. only the good ones do it right.

    soooo people did this since xp. and is generaly a good way to stop certain spikes like i said.
    but since i7 chips its less of a problem. you would expirence more problems with bad powermanagment settings. or maybe on settings below 64smp and a slow hdd. ;)
     
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    That's why they created ASIO. Realtime audio on Windows was just as bad in the XP days, actually it was even worse back then.
     
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    Those days are gone. Deadmau5 is using Windows 10 now. Xylent and Virtual Riot are also on Windows 10. And windows 10 uses less graphics than Aero Glass. They removed Classic shell from Windows 10. For Intel 6700K, turning off aero glass doesnt make sense. It may help you on i3 or older cpus.
     
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    The problem with Windows GUI is quite a bit more complex than just "yay now the rendering gets offloaded to GPU so we don't have to worry about anything". I just have no time to write everything down. Just keep all the FX at minimum in Windows, Aero or not, crazy GPU and CPU or not, and the audio should be fine and without crackling at 50% CPU. You should be able to push your CPU to 80-90% then without any problems.

    That is if you disabled all CPU powersaving features in BIOS and use "maximum performance" power scheme, which is more important.

    Just to mention that you can disable GPU powersaving features, too, and it helps to stabilise DPC latency even further, because all this frequency throttling of CPU and GPU is screwing with DPC latency. It's called "Powermizer switch" for Nvidia cards. You can find it here: http://www.overclock.net/t/683583/how-to-adjust-nvidias-powermizer I'm not using AMD cards [not that I'm Nvidia fanboy, just used to Nvidia cards too much] so I can't point you to a utility to disable GPU throttling for them, but I'm sure it exists.

    When you disable GPU throttling you will see the difference in how the plugins that use OpenGL, DirectX, or just Aero react snapier. Check some newer Waves plugins with lots of 3D graphics, for instance.

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    One of the reasons I'm moving away from Waves - GPU use. Too fancy gfx slows down my weak GPU.
     
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    If you have a dedicated PC not connected to the internet, you can actually get Windows 10 to work like a dream. I adamantly stuck to Win7x64 for years. Then I accidentally (long story) made the switch to Win10. After disabling Cortana, other services, and tweaking the registry to have black title bars instead of that annoying white, I'm actually glad I made the switch. It's noticeably snappier, starts up faster, and I grew to love the theme. There are also other nice little features like automatically mounting ISO images etc. I would have never expected it, but I'm actually glad I upgraded. The key is not connecting to the internet.
     
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    when i used windows i always used the classic theme as-well because it uses less screen real estate.
    the taskbar is thinner, as well as the "top" bar.
    btw is this option still present in w10 ?
     
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    For those with slow machines on Windows 10:
    Choose a high contrast profile.
    If you have a good machine, you'll never noticed any improvement....
     
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    You can thin the UI with winaerotweaker.
     
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    How much cpu and ram does a gui use ?
     
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    hit the nail on the head.
     
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