Who Needs Music Theory?

Discussion in 'Education' started by Zenarcist, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. The Koala

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    Well obviously no one ! The only chord progression that's worth using is Am F C G... :bleh:
     
  2. kouros

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    Which sounds cooler... C minor pentatonic scale with no 4th or a Cm7 arpeggio?
     
  3. foster911

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    Why do in the box producers seldom use pentatonic scales? To be honest I have not seen any.
     
  4. kouros

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    You're not very good at establishing cause/effect type of relationships, are you?

    Anyways, hilarious post.. thanks. :rofl:
     
  5. foster911

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    Could you please give me a link of a pure electronic track built totally on them?
     
  6. solo83

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    minor pentatonic is used a lot in hip hop
     
  7. foster911

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    Hip hop? what is it?
     
  8. kouros

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    Instead of getting things overcomplicated and subjective, just think about this:


    Do you have minor scale based stuff on electronic music? Yes, lots of it.

    Isn't the minor pentatonic a regular diatonic minor scale minus 2 notes? Yes, it is.


    You might not recognize the pentatonic fragments but they are there. You don't use pentatonics as a base from where you derive your harmony, think of it has a minor key concept when it comes to electronic stuff instead of looking at it like a key signature for instance.
     
  9. foster911

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    We can relate any scale to the other in the manner you described.
    For me by listening to the songs of any key on any scale, specific fellings come out. For example please listen to below midi file. It's on C minor pentatonic scale. Who can accept that it's in major or minor scales?
     

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  10. kouros

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    I don't know if you meant to say that the "specific feeling" is that of a minor key. Feelings can be subjective but in this case you're blinded by the stuff that you don't want to stop reading instead of listening.

    BTW, that's in Eb major.
     
  11. foster911

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    It was so short. Maybe a longer part is needed to guess accurately.
    Of course Eb major pentatonic is a subset of Eb major scale and it's a synonym for C minor pentatonic.
     
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  12. Zenarcist

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    Music theory in action .. the manual was telling me to go with C-Em-F-G, but I went with an 8-bar section C-E-F-G-C-E7-F-G with an ascending bassline and a sax solo on top. I hope I can sleep OK tonight.
     
  13. kouros

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    To keep it all diatonic it could only be Em but there's no reason for doing that. Passing chords and modulations are part of music too.

    In essence, theory will always cover any possible situation, that's why it is theory.
     
  14. kouros

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    To guess? This isn't about guessing lol I just told you what's in there.

    You keep thinking of key signatures (collections of pitches) instead of refering to where the tonic is. I've told you many times that your approach is wrong but... wtf, do what you want and let A minor be the same as C major, happy and sad at the same time depending only on what key you write on the title of your file.
    :knock:
     
  15. Zenarcist

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    Yeah, I just chose a simple example to show that I was aware of the 'rule', and I decided to break it as it sounded better in the context of what I was doing,
     
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  16. foster911

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    I just created this but don't know is Eb major or C minor.
     

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  17. kouros

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    It is not a rule. That's the evil word that keeps fking with people's brains.. let's avoid using it. :rofl:
     
  18. kouros

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    C minor.
     
  19. Zenarcist

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    It's a diatonic rule :rofl:
     
  20. kouros

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    Just as much as using eggs to make boiled eggs. Doesn't mean you have to want to make eggs in the first place. :rofl:

    I prefer the word "concept".
     
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