which effects are on the bongo at start

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  1. Howard Carpendale

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    is it a bit of comb filter ,pitchshifting envelope and reverb or what is it ?

     
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    thats almost dry in that track the bongos, i always liked delays on bongos.
     
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    i mean that from 00:05 to 00:10 round about .
     
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    Did you try flanger?
     
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    Didnt try yet because it will sound different and i wanted to know if someone know exactly whats used but that was also the first thing which came to mind , since these song is from only hardware days its rather just flanger +verb than comb and pitch envelope :deep_facepalm:.
     
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    There is no effect per se. The player is pushing the head/skin or turning the tension screws of the bongo to raise/lower the pitch.
     
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    Eventide H3000 maybe?Browse a few presets,by any chance.
     
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    It's simply this. ^
    So does this mean that any time you have watched a film with jungle/amazonian rainforest/tribes etc, that you've heard this and thought "how strange to use a modern electronic effect in such a natural scene!" ?
     
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    Not to mention that it was recorded in '72
     
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    Or just a simple tuned drum.
     
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    I think these are Roto Toms.
     
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    Ah! Could be.
    I was thinking of various Egyptian or middle eastern drums where you can put your hand inside and push on the skin.
    It sounds like he makes it back for those tighter slaps before the drums kick in.
    There are are probably similar drums from other countries too.

    There is only ONE Kontakt instrument library I know of that kind of has this.
    And it isn't bongos or roto-toms.
     
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    Agreed. I just typed "bongo" as there are bongos in the song and OP wrote "bongos". Same technique applies (to toms, timpani, timbales, darbuka, etc). With rotos it's even easier to pitch up/down. :)
     
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    Although one can't do what we heard with a darbuka. Or if one did, it would be unusable for the rest of the track. Yet we hear it tuned in the eventual tuning.
    But it does sound very similar to a darbuka when back at tightness.
    And very much like roto toms, I admit.
     
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    I do that with my darbuka, as well as putting my hand in the drum to lower the fundamental frequency. There are different ways to change the pitch of the drum.
     
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    Yes, the darbuka techniques.
    The audio example is the skin being tuned though, not a hand inside the drum.
     
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    I never said the hand was inside the drum in the song (it's really hard to put a hand inside roto toms aswell, and will not create the same effect).
    I said I use the technique(s) to change the pitch (as to add additional information).
    Don't really know what you are getting at.
     
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    ah ok thanks , i thought stuff like that is only able with bigger drums .
     
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    never heard such heavy modulation in such stuff , never . only short tail bongo -aaeeh percussion sounds .
     
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    This is what I love about life and find so humbling.
    We are all going in a similar direction, with essentially the same eventual outcome.
    Yet we all experience and learn things in totally different orders, at different times.
    So we never now what the next person knows that we don't, and what we know that they don't.
    A win/win situation when there is mutual respect.

    And of course now I got my darbuka out, as per the drummer Baxter mentioned, I can in fact emulate some of that with just the change of air pressure from my hand going inside the vessel of the drum.
    I think in a live band environment the rotos would suffice!
    Hey, you know part of a lighting rig fell onto Curtis at a gig and it broke his back? :sad:
    And he became even more public about NWO conspiracies later on.
     
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