I mean if anyone needs more proof, listen to this shit lmao

playing aside, listen to how lifeless and shit the guitar tones sound, especially that rhythm guitar, i mean i reckon they probably wanted that, but still, that sounds like an old cat about to hit it

Probably the only time the "lifeless" way of NeuralDSP works well...

i agress with you, although when it comes to bass my goto was and still always is Darkglass, Parallax on the other end, is too loose for me, harder to control in a mix situation where the bass has to be real tight... maybe Parallax for rock would be better?

 

@MrLyannMusic

This is obviously subjective, but the Tim Henson plugin can sound surprisingly good, I like it better than the John Mayer X.

 

If you’re playing keys live and relying on onboard effects, that’s one thing. But once you’re recording into a DAW, avoiding plugins entirely doesn’t really make much sense.

Keyboard and synth manufacturers have never really prioritized onboard effects, even going back to the first digital boards, they were often an afterthought. That’s why keyboard players leaned so heavily on outboard FX racks. (or the studios')

Plugins are for way more than just guitar players.

 

Don Airey - Keyboarder (Deep Purple)
used a Pedal Board a Moogerfooger ring modulator, a volume pedal and a Boss RV5 Digital reverb.

Gear Run: Don Airey / Deep Purple

 

Probably I didn't explain myself correctly. I also use plugins and I also have synths connected to pedals. I was referring to Neural DSP plugins that (to me) seem much more useful to guitarists than synth players. But, of course, I could be wrong...

 

Because it sounds dated : no dynamic, no personality.
I have enough experience in guitar AND mixing to tell you : it sounds totally flat, like a 2000's average sim.

Listen to that :

And compare to that :

Helix being released ... 10 years ago already.

 

About NDSP Tim Henson sounding like sh*t, it is because of him.
His sound is overloaded with obvious pitch shifting, telephone like, bit crusher ... effects in the demo.
If you can't hear those obvious effects, it is time to stop judging guitar sound ... or any sound.

Here is something more serious :

 

Back to the Roots

Simon McBride (DEEP PURPLE) - Gear Rundown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_McBride

Steve Morse's Pedalboard & Engl Amps for Dixie Dregs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Morse