What would make you BUY a sample pack?

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  1. Snare Gel

    Snare Gel Kapellmeister

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    Yes I know you can get free chit from sister site, but I'm talking about actually feeling compelled to purchase a sample pack with a company you want to support your hard-earned dollars with? About what price are you willing to pay, how many samples are expected? (i.e. quantity over quality), and what format would you prefer it in?

    I do this on the side and sales have slowed, so I'm just trying to do some market research for myself. I'm at the point where I'm just creating products I can't find and know I will love using regardless of it's perceived monetary value. Also, just curious as a musician/customer myself.
     
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  3. BlackHaze1986

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    My Process for sample Packs is try before you buy and if you see a comercial song coming out of it buy the pack. But for me when it comes to sampling im more into sampling my one stuff, it must be something very special for me to go after sample packs.
     
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  4. ptepper

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    Drums? Instruments? FX? Oneshots? Loops?

    For a release with the potential of generating income, it would be unwise to use samples you don't own.

    A single FX sample, a glitch, sweep or the like, used strategically and prominently, might be worth paying for the whole pack.

    Alternatively, you can try-it-before-you-buy-it, and then, depending on the outcome, support the company (commendable) either by purchasing that very pack, or a cheaper pack/product, according to what you can afford at given time.
     
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  5. mk_96

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    Pretty sure i'm not your target audience but here it goes anyway:

    Convenience maybe. I'm not familiar with sample based workflows other than sampled playable instruents, in which case something like kontakt libraries always draw my attention, but individual sample files are a bit bothersome to work with unless you have a DAW made for that (which i don't and i don't care enough to look for something like a plugin that could help with that). The only time i use individual sample files is when i need something like a field recording or foley.
     
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  6. OffshoreBanking

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    Is there a particular style or genre you specialize in ?
     
  7. Snare Gel

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    I was more general when I started but my passion is more darkwave/minimal wave + any lo-fi genres. I tend to gravitate to more 'vintage' styles as well, i.e. late 70s/early 80s European coldwave/minimal. Huge lover of monosynths.

    I'm going to be releasing a huge pack that took 6 months at the end of August I'm excited about that covers the aforementioined genres.
     
  8. OffshoreBanking

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    I think name and status sells packs,
    Brand image and visuals helps.
    A good demo speaks volumes on the quality.

    For example in trap / pop there's this guy named Decap, his thing is "Hard hitting drums".
    Artist like Travis scott used his packs so now he have a status and anything he will put out will sell.
    He does the whole Youtube thing, that helps for visibility.

    Coldwave is pretty niche in 2023 but If you have a community that follows you, you can sell anything.
    Social media is a powerful marketing tool if you are willing to play this game.

    Partnering with The Patchbay would be a smart move too, they are a reference in this kind of music and they are very well established.

    I see thousand of packs floating around on the sister site everyday and the only ones I listened to in recent years were the "Moment" packs from Splice as I listen to the music of the artists that created them.

    I often joke with my friends about "Crispy clean tik tok iridescent snares vol.47" or "Ultra cloud coco pops secret drums 3000".
    I personnaly never bought a sample pack, nor used one.

    You seems like a passionate dude that would do his thing regardless of mercantile intent, I whish you well.

    Cheers
     
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  9. Snare Gel

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    Thanks so much, that's actually really helpful - I've never heard of The Patchbay before.

    One question - I really can't stand today's social media and the current censorship, spying, and politics pushed by them. Is there any site you would recommend that might be a happy medium for someone who hates woke social media, but still wants to get the word out? Even Instagram has gone to the dogs, and I'm not sure I want to put TikTok on my phone.
     
  10. OffshoreBanking

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    Twitter seems free, Elon is just feeding it to his A.I. probably.

    Sound design is not political anyway so won't be censored anywhere.
    All of these apps collects your datas.

    Kevin Schroeder only have instagram
    Aiyn Zahev have everything but instagram.
    Demis Hellen have a whole youtube carreer.

    These are top sound designers, I think they all have deals with resonnance sounds on top of selling on their personnal websites.

    I quit social media in 2016.
     
  11. RobertoCavally

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    OffshoreBanking gave you all the basics. I would just add that there's also some legal aspect to it. I always look at the 'contract' or EULA, if you want. With the gazillion of packs floating around I always wonder, how many are just 're-packs' of someone else's material.

    Also important - how exactly can I use your pack. If those things are not clearly defined is a red flag for me, as I as a buyer can get in trouble. I have to know that the pack seller knows what he/she is doing (and yes, Aiyn Zahev badge helps in this case..)
    Totally understand, but try to put that aside. Use socials as a tool. Install everything, link everything etc.. ffs it's show business. I can be a purple snow leopard with very peculiar sexual preferences for a day, if that helps the biz.. ;)
     
  12. Melodic Reality

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    I would support someone who is specialized in given genre and provide something worth the money, not someone's take on it, but someone who used those samples successfully in his own music that I actually find good sounding and leave me least amount of work to do to make it usable in mine.
     
  13. JMOUTTON

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    As @mk_96 stated a lot of people are just not going. buy sample packs, or even bother "borrowing them" for the try before you buy. However that doesn't matter as it's not really relevant because the standard for support isn't really based on. if {"I"} would buy it for some reason or an other.

    If you use it, keep going back to it, like it, or have a high probability plan on making money on it: buy it.



    As far as socials go, I think what you are looking for & where you can be "free" of the "woke" - there is Troof, MeWe, Gab, X, Getter, Parler, Mastadoon, Telegram, and the old school 4Chan, Stormfront, maybe Brietbart has their up forums.

    Might not have the reach, but at least it will all be all the right kind of people and you have to deal with woke people.

    P.S. There is also a new one, I read about not long ago. It's called Frank and it is by the pillow /mypillow guy,

    Cheers.
     
  14. Garamondo Furbish

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    I've bought some sample packs from SampleScience. He has some interesting packs. One was a leslie organ pack. He has some nice lofi packs
    he has adverts on youtube and internet archive.

    https://archive.org/details/newhighwayspack

    its usually a venn diagram of price and sample novelty, if the price is low and the packs are novel, I'll take a chance. I'm just not going to pay 300$ for a collection of snare loops, but thats just me.
     
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    ps.. if you don't like spying 4chan is most likely a government honeypot, so I wouldn't post anything there, but your can lurk as much as you like with a VPN.
     
  16. canbi

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    these 943x 44100 WAV files not being the:

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