It's possible my poshness, but I feel that many classes/masterclasses today are of very low quality.

I mean, the masterclasses are made by professional producers; at least the sound/audio quality of the class/masterclass should be excellent? Non-treated rooms, a lot of room noise, extremely low recorded voice level, and so on. When you pay 150 to 500$ USD for a class, I expect top-notch quality.

And, we're in 2022; in my opinion, the video resolution should be atleast 1440p (instead of the usual 720p).

Is it my hardware / sound awareness poshness, or do you agree?

 

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Job Description Sound Engineer

What does a sound engineer (m/f/d) do?
Sound engineers are always needed when it comes to procuring and building the right technology for sound. In addition, one of the main tasks of a sound engineer is to record sound files through the optimal operation of the technology and then to edit them. Unfortunately, when you deal with so much technology, there are also regular disruptions. Sound engineers know how to skilfully circumvent or remedy these. They also recognize background noise during recording and know tricks to minimize it.

A distinction is often made between these areas of application:

• Studio & Live
• TV & Movies
• Creative industries (e.g. games, audio books, theatre)

What does everyday work as a sound engineer look like?
In addition to recorded sound units, there are also numerous situations in which sound engineers work live. At large events or television broadcasts, sound engineers cannot afford to make any mistakes when they are responsible for the sound transmission at the mixing console. Because even small mistakes are noticed by the audience.

In post-production, on the other hand, you don't have this problem: you listen to sequences many times in a row and usually only change the recordings by the smallest nuances. You also need to identify and minimize noise that was unavoidable when recording. Experience and a wealth of ideas will help you to create the perfect mix of the modified original recording and a suitable background sound, but often under time pressure.


You often have to carry your equipment yourself, and you often have to work weekends or work at weekends or in the evenings. In addition, it is possible that you often work far away from where you live and are also abroad overnight. What's nice: As a sound engineer, you don't work alone, but in a team - together with other people who usually have just as much passion for music and sound as you do.


Apprenticeship as a sound engineer


How do I become an audio engineer?
Sound engineer is not one of the classic apprenticeships. If you want to work as a sound engineer later on, you can qualify by training as a media designer for image and sound . This apprenticeship is offered in the classic dual system . That means you will be trained in practice in a training company and learn theoretical content in the vocational school .

In addition, the profession of specialist for audio technology / audio engineer also produces sound engineers again and again. You should note that this is a school education . This also means that the course providers decide on the content of your training and the duration of your training.


These training contents are common:

• Ear Training and Acoustics
• music production
• Recording techniques & work in the recording studio
• marketing

How much does an apprentice audio engineer make?
Your trainee salary as a sound engineer depends on which training path you choose. In the case of training as a media designer for image and sound , these training allowances are possible on average:

• in the first year of training: 986 euros
• in the 2nd year of training: 1,031 euros
• in the 3rd year of training: 1,081 euros

You can find out more on the salary page for media designer image and sound .

If, on the other hand, you would like to do school-based training , for example as an audio engineer, you will not receive any remuneration and must expect high fees . 10,000 to 20,000 euros for around 2 years are common. You pay this either monthly or per semester (i.e. every six months). In some cases, financing is possible as part of a further training measure from the Employment Agency, sometimes you can also apply for BAföG .

 

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Uhm, Hofa college ain't shit. People don't learn shit there. I once gave private lessons to somebody who was at the hofa college. He didn't event know the most basic shit about audio engineering and he was close to "graduating". He didn't know how to read an eq, how a compressor works, how to prepare mixing sessions, how sends and returns work. All in all, he didn't know shit in the 2 or 3 years he has been there. All te courses were online, so were the tests which were an elementary school level.

In other words: stay the fuck away from Hofa college. Is rip-off private school for wannabe engineers and producers who won't get jobs anywhere afterwards. You can basically wipe your ass with the "diploma" from that school!

 

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I trust Bobby Owsinski, I have read two of his books and learned a lot!
https://bobbyowsinski.com/best-selling-books/

The Mixing Engineer’s Handbook 4th Edition
https://bobbyowsinski.com/mixing-engineers-handbook/

The Recording Engineer’s Handbook
https://bobbyowsinski.com/recording-engineers-handbook/

 

I have watched quite a few of them. What I usually expect is good content but presented in a way that it is a lot of filler time. You can always snag a few tricks, if nothing else. it helps if the presenter is likable too.

For 150$ you could get a subscription to one of the video learning websites. (ask, groove3,etc) and watch all the video content you want. All you are doing paying for many of these masterclasses, is literally paying someone who has watched them for you. (and maybe even get stuff wrong repeating it)

 

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Mastering Audio: The Art and the Science Taschenbuch – Illustriert, 25. September 2014
Englisch Ausgabe von Bob Katz (Autor)
www.amazon.de/Mastering-Audio-Science-Bob-Katz/dp/0240818962

 

You even pay for MC, i have rip of MC (nearly 200GB) + lots of hacked accounts (***MC if you read this, don't upgrade security but improve course quality instead, you changed email security and now one has to confirm email first to change password, so no more security upgrade else i will sub all annually and then cancel all subs & leak the rip...)

Yes, but 2K takes a lotta space if you have no space problem It's okay. Also as you said above; low quality nowadays, but initially back in 2017 Deadmau5 & Hans Zimmer courses were good and something to learn from, now totally bogus so i don't care about MC courses anymore

 

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Expect emptying of wallet and wasting of time, for the most part. The first can be avoided in some cases but not the second.

 

I agree. When it comes to most of the classes/masterclass, you see the workflow of the producer/artist, but you very seldom get the WHY they're doing what they're doing, making it hard to get a grasp of it and reproduce it when you're producing.

 

Remember back when masterclass meant more than just watching a bunch of videos your favorite producer made? Yeah me neither

That's not even the main problem. They mostly explain basic shit you can learn from youtube, you're basically just paying for the face telling that to you

 

Beatmakers should lern music theory instead. All these technical things like mixing is just for people over-compensating the fact that they don't have taste and don't know how to produce. Instead they argue about oversampling and which EQ is "the best". Miserable souls…

Actually nice hand on Tuts are by Audio School Online by Ken Lewis. You know he worked with Kanye and 50 and he knows what the f he is doing. He also got a YT Channel called Mixing Night.

 

Great song that sounds like shit always beats shit song that sounds great.


Well, once that was true. Maybe not now.