what synthmaster can't do?

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  1. samsome

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    what synthmaster can't do?

    i'm trying to understand if i buy synthmaster what the limitations will be over other synths?
     
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  3. Polomo

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    4 Oscillators (Falcon, Cherry Voltage for Example unlimited)
    No Granular

    limited wavetable editing (Serum and Nave are better on that even with export of the Wavetables)
    no drawable waveforms (Zebra, more or less Iris 2)
    no Spectral synthesis (Maybe in Version 3.0)
    16 Voices per Oscilator (Union 32 )
    no scripting language (Falcon, Hallion)
    Limited Sampling

    good FM but not perfect (FM8, and MFactory are better one that Matrix with 8 Modulators)
    Limited Modulators (4 Lfos, 4 ADSR ) (Also Falcon, Cherry Voltage unlimited)

    Not full patchable (Its a Semi modular synth so it got all its advantages and disadvantages (Full Modular is even more versatile, but more complex))
    (look at Euroracks, Cherry Voltage, U-He ACE, Softube Modular, Native Instruments Reaktor ...)
     
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  4. Polomo

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    Don't get my wrong Synthmaster is a very good softsynth.
    (It's a bargain special on sale... black friday is coming and player sale + upgrade is most of the times even cheaper) (I got it for €35 - Player for 5€ and 30€ for the upgrade )

    (Less Known functions
    External Arp, (only in VST ,not AU/Logic Pro X)
    Vocoder, )

    If you want an almighty synth take Native Instruments Reaktor
    But if you want a great synth with great versatile take Synthmaster (for lesse than 1/6 of the price)
     
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  5. Sylenth.Will.Fall

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    You could always pop next door to the sister site for it. The prices are very reasonable there!
     
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  6. Polomo

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    He wants to go the "official" Way like he wrote in some other posts
     
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  7. teknomix

    teknomix Kapellmeister

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    Synthmaster it's a very good sounding synth. Despite from "limitations" compared with others synths like Falcon, for me, Synthmaster are best than hardware modern synths like my Ultranova or Minilogue.
     
  8. Moonlight

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    also consider trying Avenger, its GUI and mod routing is super easy. Only downside's are
    * is that it doesn't support round robin and
    * its gui opens quite slow compared to other synths
    * some bugs
    * CPU spikes on some hosts especially under macOS
     
  9. Polomo

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    And 3-6 times the price of synthmaster on sale ( Avenger was never below $100 most of the times $200)

    And we all don't know what Manuel will do, with Version 1.5.

    It could be an always on option or other cruel copy protection. There is a great discussion on KVR about this all (Copy Protection was broken and also a bit of the will from the guy of VPS especially Manuel). The guys from VPS didn't update it because of that (Synthmaster because of final 2.99 Update)

    So If you consider buying it wait for 1.5.1 (Version after new Copy Protection)
    Or stick with 1.410 from sister site
     
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  10. Moonlight

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    ... just saying. Even tho Synthmaster is cheaper its GUI (no drag and drop modulation) suxx anyways compared to Avenger. imo You pay what you get ;)

    So you already tried Avenger and Synthmaster ? Which do you prefer ? Simply buy what you like most or none.

    ... and its bugs

    it will be codemeter or if that wont wok elicenser. nothing crule about this, no animals harmed

    yeah
     
  11. Snipes3000

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    The additive synthesis in Synthmaster 2 is rather restrictive compared to Zebra2, Serum, Phosphor and MPowersynth.
     
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    "But if you Run 10 Synthmasters 2 layered you cpu will survive... compared to 2 Avenger....
    Secondly it depends what style of music you make... Avenger sounds plastic shiny Vengeance style so perfect for Commercial stuff
    if you need an all around synth you are far better off with Synthmaster
    i know some guys will disagree as usual but ... Avenger for me is better to compare with Ana 2 and nexus instead of synthmaster.
     
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  13. Polomo

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    One right click will do the job

    Yes I tried both and bought Synthmaster
    Never got any mayor bugs with it.
    But with Avenger I got some DAW Crashes.
    (Reaper, Win 10)

    elicenser would be crude (I don't like dongle Protection)
    (I'm a stage musician and dongle killed of my Stage Laptop USBs so never ever dongles for me again)
    (Soft elicenser would be ok for me by the way)


    Synthmaster is just more bangs for the bugs
    Can you use Avenger for sending MIDI out ?
    Can you use it as an effect Plugin ?

    I know both are great for some purposes
    But Synthmaster is a Bargian while Avenger is heavy overpriced maybe not Avenger by itself but the Expansion are just robbery (Preset packs €15 vs €65)

    P.S. Maybe interesting in this Context https://audiosex.pro/threads/refx-nexus2-abmahnungswelle.50751/ (I hope you speak a little German)

    It's about Lawsuits from Refx which is a former company of Manuel Schleis CEO of VPS

    Could it be that you get paid by VPS ? I would only promote something so hard if I get money for it ;-D
    Just kidding
     
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    I wish I would

    Yeah Avenger is not perfect and buggy and features are missing, but anyways it is my favourite synth beside Serum.

    I dont use Nexus

    Dont get me wrong guys, I just like Avneger since it is so easy to create patches but I dislike its bugs and missing stuff

    Do you create your own presets?
     
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  15. Moonlight

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    With which preset's loaded?
    ....it depends on the voices. To make a fair comparison you woudl need to create a similar preset.
    It also depends on the OS. macOS or Windows. Avenger seams to work better under Windows
     
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  16. Polomo

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    Most of the time but it depends on the synth I use

    For Massive, Omnisphere 2 and Zebra 2 most of the time I use preset with little tweaking (they offer good starting Points)
    On Falcon, MFactory and Synthmaster 2 I always build them my self

    I compare making preset a bit with cooking
    Sometimes fast food is great and sometimes its good to cook yourself :winker:
     
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  17. Polomo

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    Same thing in MFactory
    4 Unisono (with 4 Oscillators) Blocks with 16 Voices kill my CPU too
     
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  18. Moonlight

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    Just tried Synthmaster again, first impression:
    Its GUI opens lightning fast compared to Avenger !
    Multisample Import is as fast as Avenger
    Assinging Mod sources could be better but hey , the GUI is faster !
     
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    aha....thx for heads up
     
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