What occupations would be in danger in the next decades?

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  1. ICWC

    ICWC Kapellmeister

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    I start with this one:
    #Teaching

    Teaching is possibly in the first place of the danger list. Most people don't and won't feel any need to hire a teacher because of the internet. At least for the simple or very normal tasks. Imagine how many people will become unemployed.:guru:

    Please add any job you think would be in danger in the next decades.:wink:
     
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  4. Olymoon

    Olymoon Impossible is not a fact. It is an opinion. Staff Member

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    That's already happening, this is present, not the future.
     
  5. wasgedn

    wasgedn Rock Star

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    so many....whole retail is getting destroyed...and got destroyed...

    they fckt up handwerk to cheap slavery

    i could go on all day

    so many ppl areas and ancient job areas..all for the good of globals

    they destroy or poison education system just to experiment with new tech and make ppl dumber and have even more control

    privatization is the end of individualism and its just a fraud and lies when saying state company's are not effective (train,mail etc)
     
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    All of the repetitive, shitty jobs, will be history. That's all I can say.

    And that's really good. :headbang:

    Disclaimer: capitalist and libertarian minds won't be able to understand that.

    When all the obsolete work finally becomes obsolete, we'll be able to concentrate on mindwork.

    And that's a good thing. :headbang:
     
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  7. Riot7

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    I don't see it. Quite a few people hire private teachers to begin with, but obviously automation can't replace early and primary educators. Businesses and all kinds of groups will continue to hire and employ all kinds of instructors and coaches. Or at least I like to think so.

    Meanwhile agricultural jobs have mostly already disappeared. A slow decay due to steady rise in productivity. 150 years ago 2/3rd's of the work force was in agriculture. 50 years ago about 1/3rd. Today in many modern countries around 2% of the population works in agriculture.

    Due to automation manufacturing and more recently retail jobs are on the same path. Logistics will be next to take a giant hit.

    But this is not a bad thing per se. In fact, it's supposed to be a great thing. In theory if everyone benefited equally from the rise of productivity we could see a move to 3 or 2 maybe even 1 day work weeks for everyone during our lifetimes, no problem.

    But the problem of course is that we live in very unequal societies. While productivity has gone up across the board, the working class people have not been invited to the party in decades. The wages and benefits have stagnated, in some countries even dropped. According to some estimates around around 50 percent of all jobs in G20 nations could disappear before the year 2050. Nothing like this has happened before.

    There is no obvious solution to the obvious social problems this change raises. I think it is inevitable something will happen. Some people of course cling to the past more furiously than ever. The fetishization of labor intensive primary production and manufacturing jobs is at the core of Trumpism, for example, but many people see a a tipping point and a paradigm shift coming as the current economic model slowly grows socially unsustainable. Some people think it could be violent. Europe is already starting to experiment with different de facto basic income models.
     
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    Mr. Riot7, thank you. I just wasn't into mood to write all that for the 100th time. :wink:

    I usually participate in Slashdot discussions about these things. Musicians are weird plants. :rofl:

    All is full of love... [Bjork]

    Love, in itself [DM]

    All you need is love [Beatles]

    Love will tear us apart [Joy Division]

    Dressed in black... [DM, oops, slipped :lol:]

    and all that fiction. Not necessarily bad, of course. I love it. :headbang:

    But *we do need a nice world to live in*, all of 7 bil of us.
     
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  9. famouslut

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    I think occupations like accountant etcs are already on the way out. My sis' firm decimated their staff last year, just left management rly. Just all (mostly) computerised nao. Anything in market research, data analysis, tax etcs will be. You hope that computers / web will make all lawyers redundant, but they're too good at arguing to be taken down by a mere algorithm, I guess! :D
     
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    in g music teachers with degree and without degree but right written online offer have so much clients they cant work off all offers they get...i looked it up a bit some time ago
     
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    laweyrs invent contract language...computers still cant i blv...the engine to build that must be so huge.. unimaginable ...and puters dont no corruption so :dunno:
    contract business english has biggest word treasure in world...so english has biggest word treasure....not chinese or so
     
  12. babuk

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    What occupations? producing EDM will be erased for sure :bleh: A.I. algos will do it. Only true virtuosos will prevail. But that's questionable too.
     
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    @babuk That's a really interesting thing to think about. Is it really possible? We should concentrate on that aspect of it, I suppose, since this is a music forum. :wink:

    Not that I couldn't discuss fascism and similar brain challenging philosophies that still occupy too many of the young minds today for no absolute reason, but all I could say is F-U. :rofl:
     
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    The traditional Farmer will dissapear: meat, vegetables & fruits will be produced within biotech buildings, possibly below the surface.
    Combustion engine repair & production techs: will loose their job because of the electrification of engines.
     
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  15. ICWC

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    Update system (currently under execution vehemently) will finally extinguish the humanity if done with this rate and unplannedly considering all aspects. People need to do works again and again to discover themselves and feel stability in their lives. This never-ending mechanism is not in accordance with that and other humans' traits. It takes the repose and peace and leads people into alienation from themselves and the society.:sad:
     
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    AI still does not invent the language but it looks like it can read a lot better. :wink:
    Heard about that one not long ago?

    "20 top US corporate lawyers with decades of experience in corporate law and contract review were pitted against an AI. Their task was to spot issues in five Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs), which are a contractual basis for most business deals. The study, carried out with leading legal academics and experts, saw the LawGeex AI achieve an average 94% accuracy rate, higher than the lawyers who achieved an average rate of 85%. It took the lawyers an average of 92 minutes to complete the NDA issue spotting, compared to 26 seconds for the LawGeex AI. The longest time taken by a lawyer to complete the test was 156 minutes, and the shortest time was 51 minutes." :woot:

    https://hackernoon.com/20-top-lawye...e-are-their-surprising-responses-5dafdf25554d
     
  17. wasgedn

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    simply end of humanity blv it or not....its all bout the cycle....industry give shit on the cycle

    nope....only cannabis lol
    energy is way to expensive for food crop

    before this happens ...world is complete other..oil lobby did buy and steal all patents in last 100 years..we could have Ho² cars driving 300 kmh , thats no utopia

    some guy did even invent perpido mobile some time ago...a magnet driven motor
     
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    wtf...maizelman
     
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    Auto mechanics are already an endangered profession...one need not figure out by deduction or intuition what is wrong with an engine, there is a computer to feed that information, and what used to be titled "mechanic" is now just a part changer...or so my old mechanic used to rail. He kept alive my 220,000 mile 1984 Honda Civic long past it's calculated lifespan. RIP, Grey Girl, keep the rubber to the road on that highway in the sky!
     
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    critical thinking.

    ...hang on though, is that a job?
    HMmm.. (stroky beard hesitation)... I'll have to give that some thought.
     
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    I read Bill Gates' boo "the road ahead" in 1995. He back then saw everything quite clear especially the evolution of jobs. It seemed to be quite unbelievable back then. But today a lot of his predictions are fact.

    In another 25 years nothing will be as we know it now. (any) Jobs will be for the most intelligent and most efficient only.

    Even some business leaders(!) around the world demand an unconditional basic income for everyone because they accepted not everyone is able to be a rocket scientist.
    And they (the business leaders) are no socialists. This is needed to be done. Otherwise we'll see riots and revolution like in Russia at the beginning of the 20th century [what results in -> death of business leaders ;) ]
     
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