watermark sample library

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  1. shivang

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    what is watermark sample library and why they are not available for download ?

     
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    No one wants them because they are Watermarked, maybe.........?
     
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    spitfire audio & 8dio libraries are in demand people want them
     
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    to the op , how it is to use the search function ? it isnt the first thread about the same .

    if people want them , how it is to buy it ?
     
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    its $599 usd, unaffordable. I cannot buy everything or if i start buying every library i need then it will cost me around $30,000
     
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    if its unaffordable for you , just try to use alternatives . i wonder what needs means to you ? cant you make any music without those Librarys ?
     
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    you have available TBs of top notch libraries try to use them and work hard instead of spamming :bleh: new libraries will not help you become better
     
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    Two stories:
    1. As a hobbyist you may want to have them, but do you really need them?
    2. As a Pro, earning money with your work, you should be able to afford them. If not, you should consider giving up music business. Let's say you need a car for your business, would you even think about to steel one if you can't afford your dreamcar? I think (hope) you'll settle for a cheaper one. :)
     
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    i think digital files can be shared by multiple users who cannot afford for learning but in case of your example physical things cannot be used by different users at the same time whereas sample libraries are usable as its digital. stealing is like something i would never appreciate. what i m trying to say is not to steal but share.
     
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    Sharing and stealing is quite the same thing, when it comes to intellctual property.
    The people building big libraries have to work hard for it and won't appreciate your differentiation.

    So if your are learning the stuff I see no need to "need" the expensive libraries. The simple stuff will do the job.
    But when you're done with learning and produce a huge and successful project some day, you won't be exited if everyone is "sharing" it.
     
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    p.s.:
    I've bought some watermarked libraries. But I won't share it, bacause the watermark contains my name or at least a s/n so that I could be identified. They won't do me any harm, but they won't sell me a library in the fututre.
    If you read the interesting wikipedia article above, there is no way to kill watermarking in audio files without destroying the sound.
     
  16. boogiewoogie

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    Watermarks are in the instrument files, and contain the information of the user who bought the library.

    Let's say Carlos Hoffman buys 8Dio Majestica. He will download the files, when he gets them, the instrument files (NKI files) will get stamped with his information, in a way that 8Dio can read.

    If Carlos Hoffman then decides, hey I will put this up on as many pirate sites as I can, maybe I can get some money for downloads. He uploads it all over the net and it starts to spread.

    8Dio guys notice it on one of those sites, thwey download it and check the NKI files for the watermark. Aha, these are the files of Carlos Hoffman.

    Now 8Dio contacts Carlos Hoffman about sharing the library online, and could even sue him for compensation. At the very least, they will ban him from ever buying anything else from them.

    Carlos Hoffman is sad.

    This is why no big name libraries are shared anymore, they will all have the name of the buyer embedded in the files.
     
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    Crack a watermark?????

    Watermarks normally stored in NKI/NKX/NKS monoliths maybe image files & other files but very rarely in the audio data itself as not to degrade the sound quality. As a result they are generally non-invasive.

    Normally they don't contain the serial number either as most libraries don't have a serial number.

    Audio watermarking more expensive etc.

    Watermarks normally contain details of user purchase such as name, purchase time, e-mail, IP address & general buyer details
     
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    Poor Carlos Hoffman.
    But I don't think, they can sue him, because they need to proof, he shared the library wilfully. And I don't think they need to embed a name inside the code because a serial# / UUID will do the job. At the time you purchase you have to identify yourself, so the serial# or UUID is connected to the person in their database.
     
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    Share them with me so I can remove the watermak. I promise!

    True story:hahaha:
     
  20. shivang

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    how to remove watermark
     
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    vladdrac are joking

    simple forget about , developer use different methods for their products , which means different developer , different methods


    if it would be easy and if it could be removed that easy , developer could save the time to implement such things .
     
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