Wanna buy a mac, teach me if its the right choice please!

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  1. Gyro Gearloose

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    also on top :snuffy:
    better call it bill defender
     
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    Who needs defender? Just surf porn on different devices! :hahaha:
     
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    It's pretty well known that I use OS X, but I am no damn fanboi, and I fear my next system is absolutely going to be cross platform/hackintosh etc, and that will require some learning curve for me etc, but as @taskforce said, noobs pay double.. :)

    and while I am not there right now, having spent the last decade in LA, every studio, every film stage recording orchestra's etc I have been in (and that number is pretty high)... ALL of them employed Mac's. I have never seen a windows machine at the Fox studios, village recorders, etc etc... unless if was for a non-musical related function.

    That being said, I think that is just because they haven't swapped out or whatnot. I would never claim that OS X is all that, and lord knows Reaper can do more then most out there for less $$ then anything. The fact people still rely on Protools so much is the same reason they still have the damn macs in their studios... people are just "used" to them. and the software. And PT was a great easy peasy way to get engineers to transition from consoles and tape to daw recording by damn DESIGN.

    I could completely care less what os people use as long as they can express and accomplish their intended communication. done.

    but in the 20+ big studios and film scoring stages I have been in and working in Los Angeles, I never saw a windows machine in use at all in a recording sense. maybe some kid using fruity loops on a laptop he brought in... but that was it...


    but that is just my small sample set in that regard.
     
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    I think they do ,atleast they show you if cores are being parked. On windows 7 you dont need them though , write in the windows search bar with the language of your windows installation : power options (or find it in the control panel, click to view the icons rather than categories and its there somewhere)

    Then just select the high performance plan. One thing that might be also useful is to further click --> change plan settings -> change advanced power settings --> and from USB Settings --> selective suspending to disabled. When i had VirusTi synth i had to disable it since windows might drop the usb connection beetween the synth and the port. (Access Music was aware of this and recommended the action on installation)

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    Unnecessary going over simple thing but its this bastard right here that might cut off that valuable cpu performance :D

    The value should be 100 instead of 5

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    by default ?
     
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    No, by default is sucks and might park cores if it likes :guru: Change it to 100 but its easier and better to click high performance plan coz you might miss something
     
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    Absolutely agreed. For musicians the OS should be just a means to an end, a mandatory but not really important step to use the tools we need to get the job done. The problems arise when the OS gets in the way of the intended usage and Windows due to its architectural complexity (which is not really smart and a victim for compatibility's sake, reminiscent of old times really) has pissed off millions of users over the years. It wasn't 'till WinXP that MS oses started getting a reputation for some degree of reliability. Up to then it was just about broad compatibility and open end architecture, gaming and office for most peeps. For the serious creative applications you needed a Mac, that is during most of the 80s and 90s and even early 2ks. On a personal note here, on retrospective thought it becomes evident that this wasn't because of Apple's competence but because of MS's inability to present a really robust, stable system. Which brings me to...
    Exactly. A few months back i was in an old friend's studio. Although his place is well equipped with very good outboard gear and great amps etc, he hasn't changed/upgraded his Apple G4 and ProTools TDM for the last 20 yrs or so. You know what ? Nobody from his clients ever questioned his decision, including me of course. He gets the recording/mixing job done, with PT and WavesTDM (circa 1999), Bomb Factory (remember these?) and the other Digidesign plugs and a 24ch Oram console. The golden rule will always be "if it works don't fix it". And while at the part of the world i reside nobody cares what we do, it is true that the same principal is in full effect all around the world and in facilities that produce cutting edge art be it film or 3D or just music etc. Critical work never stops for many pros and reliability/stability is the most precious quality here. So yeah most of the times it's because they haven't swapped systems or they "chickened" out to change platforms. I have witnessed it first hand, Windows terrifies long time Mac users and not without a reason of course. When time is money, downtime means loss, and for many learning something new equals a waste of precious time which could be spent creatively. And as you mentioned it too, the force of habit is really strong with many people, probably the most.
    Truth be told, macs now are just pcs with a different os. Power users and creative pros atm, gain nothing for commiting to Apple's outrageous price, warranty and support policies, they only make the richest tech company in the world even richer.
    Going Hackintosh makes perfect sense for anyone used to macOS, especially for the creative pros. You may spend sometime working out the quirky stuff involved with this, but it will pay off on the long run. Much more than many may think. In that other thread mac vs windows someone defending macs said horsepower isn't everything. Well... he's wrong. Because when you have everything else checked and covered but you run out of cpu, horsepower is everything hehehe. Hackintosh isn't hard to employ if you already have experience in building pcs. If you don't, then you will need outside help. If you ever decide to do the leap, i am willing to help you via TeamViewer or Skype etc. And i'm pretty sure @tzzsmk and any other who dabbles with hackintosh mods will offer some help too. The sites to check are:
    https://www.tonymacx86.com/
    https://hackintosh.com/
    https://amd-osx.com/
    In a nutshell, Mac is dead long live Hackintosh:rofl:
    Cheers:
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    Thank you for saying that! This is totally my experience too, from flitting around various studios, mostly in the UK, doing keys sessions over the last 20+ years.
    I've been trying to hint this to younger daw users; from the angle "why do you feel you have to be on the newest operating system, with the most up-to-date version of every piece of software?"
    Hoorah! :wink:
     
  12. There are reasons to get either machine.
    Google the good points on each.
    If money is an issue maybe not a Mac if you intend to get a new machine.
     
  13. groove

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    what can we see as bullshit written on this forum
     
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    Juvenile. Ignorant. Kiddy stuff.

    Unbelievable. Mac have kept me working/earning for 20 years. Im actually working and earning with this shit. PC's slow me down and make me less productive, probably because Im pc-illitierate. Why do I care? I don't. Macs me money. PC's don't. Everyone finds their own path. Good luck, kids.
     
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    Mac machines are overpriced, underpowered and badly built. Note, I don't say anything against their OS; anyone with a brain will build a hackintosh instead of buying Apple's garbage (unless they actually start making good machines again and maybe lower prices). And there exist many commerical high end laptops/PC (more expensive than Apple's stuff) that would be totally unaffordable, if they were sold by the greedy bastards from Apple.
    Only retards that get influenced by marketing bullshit and technically illiterate people seem to be attracted by Apple.
    But I don't know why audio people would go to Mac OS aside from Logic users, maybe there exist some niche programs that are more stable on it...
     
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    Go with a PC. I believe that the "Mac Myth" in profecional music production and mixing is just a marketing thingy. You will have the same results using a PC for less money. Its that simple !

    Consider just this : How many productions you love, were made in a PC or a MAC ? ... Thats right , NOBODY will ever know !
    I mean that a lot of productions were made in a PC, we just can't define it.
     
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    Well and a lot of usefull tip too. Like how to remove the garbage left by your friend cashmere release. :wink:
     
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    mac are pc with mac os....nowadays....
    :hahaha::deep_facepalm:
     
  19. groove

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    it's strange for myself I work in techno and I never see a guy with pc on production or in live ...
     
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    @taskforce , you are the best.... I don't have a lot of time to type now, but will more later, but agree with all you said, 1000%. And you are so cool to offer to help me in the upcoming future should I need it. Class act sir!
     
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