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Battery is totally broken when you drag in samples, why the f*** does it map samples like that even tho they are numbered?!

 

https://audiosex.pro/threads/battery-is-totally-broken.45401/

the force is with you my friend

 

For crossfade looping, there is a shell script which I found, quite powerfull. It uses the Sox library, though this specific script is not for Windows, it's really clever thought out. Crossfade looping afaik is looping the "unloopable". Which saves alot of hassle when cutting drum breaks in ableton as opposed to hardware samplers where it's just one click.

Code:

# makes a audiofile to loop itself (seamless by using a crossfade trick) (needs sox audio utilities)
# @dependancy sox
# Usage: ./loopcrossfade <input.wav> <faderatio> [outputdir]
#

loopcrossfade(){
  input="$1"; faderatio="$2"; outputdir="$3"; tmpinput="/tmp/$(basename "$input").loopcrossfade.wav"
  [[ ! -f "$input" ]] && echo "cannot find $1" && exit 1
  valid=$(echo "$faderatio > 1.99" | bc -l );
  (( $valid == 0 )) && echo "faderatio should be 2.0 or bigger" && exit 1
  [[ -d "$outputdir" ]] && outputfile="$outputdir/$(basename "$input")_loop.$faderatio.wav" \
                        || outputfile="$input""_loop.$faderatio.wav"
  # prepare input
  format="-c 2 -e signed -b 16 -r 44100"
  sox "$input" ${format} "$tmpinput" &&
  samples="$(soxi "$tmpinput" | grep Duration | cut -d' ' -f11 )"
  fadetime="$( echo "$samples/$faderatio" | bc )"
  fadetimehalf="$( echo "$fadetime/2" | bc )"
  middle="$( echo "$samples-$fadetime" | bc )"

  # get middle part + add fadein
  sox "$tmpinput" ${format} "$tmpinput.lmid.wav" fade t "$fadetimehalf"s trim 0 "$middle"s
  # get end (+fadeout)
  sox "$tmpinput" ${format} "$tmpinput.lend.wav" trim "$middle"s "$fadetime"s
  sox "$tmpinput.lend.wav" "$tmpinput.lendfadeout.wav" fade t 0 0 "$fadetime"s
  # combine together
  sox -m "$tmpinput.lendfadeout.wav" "$tmpinput.lmid.wav" "$outputfile" norm
  echo "written $outputfile"
  rm /tmp/*.loopcrossfade.*
}

loopcrossfade "$1" "$2" "$3"

Also do not overlook a dedicated audio editor for samples. Mangle them first in your audio editor, such as audacity, which I basically rediscovered last days (it's seriously powerful, nyquist prompt, can use every plugin no matter the OS (on linux that is).

Anyway, if you want some dirt, in your samples, I do agree, you can't replicate the sound of a mpc 60 exactly, but you can come close by doing some down sampling, to say 22.1 khz , and a bit depth of 16 or 12. That is a begin, because that is the only resolution those old samplers accepted. As far as emulating a s950 (the real deal)completely, it either takes a lot of time with a complex chain of effects in your daw, or some genius invents some advanced algorithm. Or you can buy just the real thing and press play.

Korg volca sample sounds good for that matter as wel, I can recommend it enough for amyone looking for that lofi sound.

 

New sonic arts- nuance

 

thanks a lot....you did some dope research and experiences...
how do i use such a scirpt ? in kontakt ?
load"*",8,1

 

No problem. When I started in music I was only interested in 'old' music, era of 90s -beginning 20st century. This inspired me to get that route as well, which means in my case quite a lo fi sound, mostly hardware based music and a lot of experimentation (with the latter being non existent if you turn on the radio nowadays). I do use a few plugins, but funny enough they tend to be old to.

Regarding that script, you must run it with bash. this can be done either with Cygwin on Windows, or on linux. Check out Audacity prefer a interface. I can send you some .ny plugins/scripts which you put in the nyquest prompt of Audacity and get some similar results.

 

https://www.cygwin.com

hey thx for reply..
you could post scripts and also the .ny plugins here in thread as far as they do not being warez..
would be really cool..

and right audacity is also one of the overseen tools by the masses heh heh..

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im not gone using this instantly but im very glad if this method get forum-processed/flipped for forum and me..

 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Shell)
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

this is linux only ??

 

Last edited: Aug 20, 2019

@alex921
This is very interesting!
Lovely to see this kind of stuff.
Thank You!
I would love to read more stuff like this

 

Overtones are locked?? The 3000 and the 3200 are the exact same sampler. The 3200 is just a 3000 maxed out with all the options added like the filter expansion, I/O board, SPDIF, SCSI, hard disk recording, etc. Same with the 3000XL. Its just a 3000 with some of the options included. The 3000CD has a built in CD-ROM instead of a floppy, and was meant more as a playback machine than a full on sampler.

The only problem with the 3000's sound is the fact that its the beginning of the "clean" sounding Akais. The 900/950 are the coveted 'Akai sound' the 1000 is less so, and the 3000 and up were all crystal clear digital. What you put in, you got back out. There's nothing 'locked' on it, its just a clean as hell 90s sampler. If you want something from that era with some fat color, get an Emu EOS machine, otherwise just stick with Kontakt or EXS24 or TAL Sampler, etc. Its not going to be fun when you run out of a max 32mb of memory and have to wait while you load like 10 floppy disks worth of stuff.

 

hey man you gotta do some research your self man. Most of the scripts I use tend to work, but more or less for own usage as I add for a example a pitch shift to the sample, or whatever. Experiment yourself like i am doing currrently.

In my previous posts there is a lot of information which anyone can get along with if they really want it.

 

then compare 3000/3200 with 3000/3200XL you will see the older give more overtones...more great dirt in 3000/3200

you cant compare a 12 bit sampler with 16 bit sampler , best is mirage 8bit
sure the 1000s sounds other then 900/950

ensoniq asr10 must be mentioned too..

you even give my point weight , you said they gone cleaner and cleaner...

further

most use it for drums..so...
but..
i love bass gritt and i give a dam when i hear a resampled mono synth thru s3200
further
scsi2sd is like hdd...no floppy disk life...
also the old scsi stuff did give hdd feeling...
loading times still sort of long
and if youre ram or rom(mutec) is full its full yes...

 

Last edited: Aug 20, 2019

yeah it was an early version of kontaktno sampler

 

The S3000 series (S2800/S3000/3200) have different converters than the S3000XL series. The S3000 series has the same converters as the MPC 3000. It's the same sampler that's in the MPC 3000. Also on these units you record/input at a lower volume but Drive the output HOT.

 

has mpc2000 sound

btw : yo spacely

 

and
The S3000XL series (S2000/S3000XL/3200XL)