VST/AU best in term of complex combination FM/AM/RM...

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  1. itsan

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    Hi ! First of all I'm on mac so it will be cool if it's for mac.

    I'm looking for a best quality soft synth for FM/AM/RM, soft sync, hard sync with waveform/wavetables.
    For the moment the more accurate one is Reaktor (using the blocks to create a modular synth) but I wonder if there any other in the market that can make as good result as an analog Voltage Controller synth, and I don't want a modular one because I already own Reaktor so... ?
    I know it will never be the same exact quality as a real hardware analog synth but at least the one you found to be the most closer to you (knowing that it's to create patches with movement I would especially like precision in the variations, in short, when you turn the knobs that there are enough values and that it is accurate in term of sound response) !

    Sorry if it's not properly write, I'm french so I write it the best I can ;)

    Thanks :)
     
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  3. No Avenger

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    N.I. FM7, FM8?
     
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  5. itsan

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    Wow, serum isn't even in the competition, it's versatile but....
     
  6. itsan

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    Yes you're right for the FM part but i would like some more option (AM,RM, wavetables maybe...)
     
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    That's why I've put the question mark behind it.

    Another option could be Rob Papen's Blue. It comes with FM, PD, RM, WS and a bunch of waveforms and samples.
     
  8. itsan

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    Yes, but not actually what I'm looking for, but it's good yes, I will try it again to test :)
     
  9. 23322332

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    Phase Plant (you need to replicate sync. techniques manually), Msoundfactory, Falcon.

    Btw, none of these methods you listed are stable or accurate with analogue, hardware synths (there are some good digital modules for FM in Eurorack these days, but they are DIGITAL, not analogue and their cost is on the wild side), so part of your comment is a nonsense.
     
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  10. itsan

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    Moog quote for the Moog One :

    "Each Moog One voice employs three newly developed triangle core analog VCOs. The output of each oscillator is a user-defined mix of the selectable triangle / sawtooth wave, plus a variable-width pulse wave. Expanding beyond traditional oscillator designs, the rise/fall time of the triangle wave and the reset phase of the sawtooth wave can be shaped and modulated to create to a rich palette of classic analog tones. Blending the tri/saw and pulse waves together opens new dimensions of harmonic freedom, creating complex waveforms not typically found in analog synthesizers. The Moog One oscillator section is also equipped with hard sync, analog ring modulation, and FM for boundless analog sound generation."

    Thanks for Msoundfactory, it's true that you can oversample a max with it, just didn't like the GUI..
     
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    Pour ma part , j’ai " Falcon d’Uvi " il est incroyable . La synthèse réalisé par l’équipe d’ingénieur d’IRCAM france. il es Complet et Polyvalent en matière de conception de son.
     
  12. minozheros

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    If you like modular synths, you should know about VCV-Rack but i will mention it anyways.. https://vcvrack.com/

    As for the owning argument.. most of VCV-Rack is free
     
  13. 23322332

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    Analogue FM? Come on, you can't get anything usable out of it. It changes the pitch of the timbre, idk, how good are you with math, but you need plenty of it to program such synth in any controlled way. That's why it's used only for sound effects or way to add vibrato.
    About sync - go to Reaktor forums and use the search function and you can find an interesting discussion on the theoretical possibilities with it that can create morphing timbres (of course, it is way more complex than what you will find in Moog one or any commercial synth! I don't know, if Reaktor people implemented it somewhere in the user library...)

    I don't know what is your level of sound design understanding, but if you really want to get most out of analogue synthesis, you need plenty of oscillators and filter banks. Like a whole wall full of modules. You won't come with anything interesting or novel on such simple synth as Moog One etc.
    But if I was about to spend a whole lot of money on a synth, I would probably get something like a Serge (or a clone) along with a book on engineering electronics to learn how to patch it efficiently. This sort of thing would be too CPU intensive to exist with any acceptable sound quality in a virtual modular (still, individual modules can be replicated - U-he Hive replicates many options found in Maths, which is an upgraded Serge module )
     
  14. Rockseller

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    arturia analog lab?
     
  15. itsan

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    Well you're right is pretty close that what I'm looking for, I will using it now but well I would love a synth with the exact same quality !
    Thanks man !
     
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