I Did then it goes to another page and says ops something is missing.
But Beat16 gave me the files.

 

Using neither ... my music is made on Yamaha EX5 and an Korg M3 with Radias board inside ... Computer is used only for final recordings ...
But yes, like everybody else , I wanted to see and hear the miracol ... Not convinced ... Hardware is better ...

 

Well, no need to get buthurt and go bonkers, when someone states, your softsynth sounds thinner than the original.
Maybe you're not familiar with the terms audio engineers use to describe certain areas of the frequency spectrum. A sound that has too much "mids" and less top and bottom might be considered thin by many people. And since virus and viper do not sound identical, this might be a legit observation.

He even added that's his humble opinion, but yeah, that seems to be something you need to make fun of.

So why don't we talk facts, should we? Ever tried to play polyphonic on your recreation of the "PhatBrazBC" patch? Hold a bass note left and play final countdown in the right hand or whatever. On the virus it sounds fat, on viper it sounds like a casio synth with a broken pitchbend.

So maybe fix the portamento issue first, before going after people that have some truth in their statements.

 

I'm not trying to plug myself or seem like I think I'm anything special. Because I'm not. It's just, bands that I aspire to be like - Tool, Deftones, A Perfect Circle, Nine Inch Nails, Fear Factory, etc. have all used a Virus at some point. And I can say with 99% certainty that they would choose a Virus over Viper. Well actually, maybe Trent wouldn't care because he's not a crazy perfectionist anymore like he was in the 90s. But for an album like The Fragile, my point definitely stands.

I'm not saying I think Viper is bad. It's just not something a certain type of artist would choose.

 

Fear Factory never use any Synth ...it was Rhys Fulber of Front line Assembly who plays and produces the Synths Parts....and I think he use the Viruses not that much....on the other side in all metal Music you don't hear any difference between soft synth or hardware because the focus was on the metal Guitars...but that was other point

And btw if you make these kind of music it's equal which synth you use because you need to eq the shit out of it to work with the wall of guitars..that is the magic of the music not the Synths as itself
When you solo the synth part and it sounds thin and like shit it works mostly very good with metal riffing

 

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I've owned the Virus Ti for over 10 years, and made hundreds of sounds for it. It sounds the same as the virus for 98% of sounds. The unison mode is slightly different, but still good. What you're hearing is the D/A converters of the virus which aren't used here, but that's not the plugins fault, and the same change in sound happens when using the Virus Ti USB audio outputs. Also, Osirus open source seems to be the same plugin with a different GUI but free... anyone know how that happened?

 

Thanks for your experience.
Osirus is simply based on this :
https://audiosex.pro/threads/motoro...-now-access-virus-nord-lead-waldorf-mw.59786/

It is up and running :D

 

Osirus/DSP56300Emu is emulating the chips on the hardware itself, rather than writing their own code to reproduce the Virus sound they wrote code to reproduce the hardware that runs the code that Access made. In other words, it's *legitimately* an authentic Virus. However they only emulate the Virus B and C, with support for the Virus A in the works. Work on the TI series is also being done, but will not be released publicly until Access no longer sells anything from the TI(2) line.

 

I am thankful for all the great DSP56300Emu stuff and I wonder if anyone can make an estimation about when Access Virus will stop selling their fab, hyper-xpensive ti2 series or if anyone might take a leak with the onions and cabbages around the circle of fifths...

 

If customers stop buying this product, Access will disappear from the market.

 

I understand...if Access Virus would make some updated products for the 21st century, they would probably enjoy an extension of their success for the present and the future with products that take into account products such as Viper and DSPEMU for instance

I don't know about you but I am not going to spend 2.300 euros on their synths considering the competition they face right now

PS: Forgive me BEAT16, I forgot how to quote

 

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I had already bought a Virus TI Snow, very expensive. I have then sold again. I have become more of a software person. I now have the Viper where I can play my sounds that I made with the right Virus. Great thing and 1000 euros cheaper. Access makes only hardware and Kemper guitar. The customers of tomorrow are not yet born. The Internet and the computer has changed the world. Now there is software that you can afford. There are also many products that are free.

 

Surely they can make their own vst version/s , also like Korg they could remake their synths with a cheaper hardware and updated software for added functionality and extra features

To survive you have to be flexible and see what is happening around you

Look at the guitar market right now...cnc'd copies from Asia with great materials...also not great finish details...but with a few files and some little skill, you can get there anyway (the sign of the times) -Prince- :P

I got an Epiphone Les Paul Modern red burgundy for 579 euros... incredible guitar...imagine something equivalent a few years ago for that price...you can get for less money a Harley Benton but, what the f**k, I don't like playing guitar with a broom

This is an example of how things have already changed in the instrument making business and if Acess Virus don't act quickly they will say goodbye very soon!

 

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Congratulations @jonathanrodhes on your Epiphone Les Paul Modern red burgundy guitar. I have a (Gibson) Epiphone - PR-350CE, steel sided acoustic guitar with built in pickups that I could afford because Epihone produces in Korea.

Epiphone is an American trademark for plucked instruments that has existed since 1928. Until 1957, Epiphone was an independent company, particularly known for its range of high-quality archtop guitars since the 1930s. In 1957, Epiphone was affiliated with rival musical instrument manufacturing company Gibson Guitar Corporation. Since then, Epiphone has been a subsidiary and brand of Gibson, primarily offering guitars in the lower to mid-price range.

You have to be innovative as an entrepreneur first and foremost, better than the rest or you undercut the competition with Made in the Far East. You must of course study the market and offer your product on the world market, today cheaply over the Internet. You must see as an entrepreneur that there is a need for your product and you must try to sell high quantities.

The inventive spirit of man, his creativity is almost limitless and through new product processes, mass production in low-wage countries, you can keep up with the competition.

 

This is when they will become expensive for real.

 

Well. Virus IS a software. It's just a code that running on moto chip in a fancy box. Fact that i'm legit owner of endless list of vst crap, doesn't make virus obsolete. There's still NOTHING that sounds as good as virus. And i don't see any changes in the near future.

 

Ask yourself WHY Christoph Kemper created another milk cow : 10 years without any concurrent product (until Quad Cortex)

 

Thank you BEAT16, I congratulate you too for your guitar for sure, Epiphone is producing very nice guitars indeed!

Access Virus is a prestigious, well established company since the late 90's if I remember correctly so I don't think they would not have any problem to repackage their products in vst format...I cannot imagine anything cheaper to produce than software that is already coded, already very successful in the present 'form' and top notch sounding...as cheap to be made from Germany as from China or any other country you can imagine

 

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Hi Mr Faraday,

I agree with you except the fact that many, many people are going to face a very difficult dilemma:

Shall I spend 2.300 euros on an Access Virus or get a copy of this Dspemu for free? or perhaps shall I get Viper? (around 70 euro if you get if with discount)

I wonder what happens when a company stop selling, partially because of their overpriced products, partially because of the competition?

 

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Twice cheaper than full nexus and little cheaper than full avenger.