Unpack the Ableton Live Suite installer (v11/v10 - so far not v12)

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  1. geaked

    geaked Newbie

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    how to avoid authorization in all of this installing process?
     
  2. PartyShit

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    Nice so
    Finally I extracted the msi file and I extracted Ableton 10s installer
    Does anybody know if the "System64" folder is needed when I did the extraction it extracted "Ableton" folder and "System64" folder
    Basically I deleted the "System64" fodler and run Ableton started without any issues
    I hope it will keep on workin
    Thanks so much for this method
    From taking 1.90 GB the original Ableton 10.1.41 installer I managed to compress into a 1.2 GB rar for storing Ableton extracted for future use.
     
  3. PartyShit

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    Finally it worked

    The only way I could do it is:

    1. I got the things extracted
    Ableton Live 11 Suite Installer.exe
    Ableton Live 11 Suite Installer Data 1.cab
    Ableton Live 11 Suite Installer Data 2.cab
    2. NOW very important to run UniExtract with UniExtractUpdater.exe and thats it nobody told me this I was running the plain UniExtract.exe
    3. So UniExtract did a 9 MB Setup.msi
    4. Put that 9 MB Setup.msi to your location where these are:
    Ableton Live 11 Suite Installer.exe
    Ableton Live 11 Suite Installer Data 1.cab
    Ableton Live 11 Suite Installer Data 2.cab
    5. Run lessMSI drag the 9 MB Setup.msi to it and hit Extract
    DONE

    Lets GOOOOO
     
  4. Synclavier

    Synclavier Rock Star

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    Does anybody know the way to unpack .alp ableton packs
     
  5. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    you can load into Live and then search for the unpacked folder. but without Live there is no way. Its to special the format Ableton came up with.
     
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  6. r4e

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    Hm, I usually unpack the installer using a simple command for msiexec (also created a context menu entry for this).

    [​IMG]

    If you want that entry as well, I created a little installer to add it with an option to elevate the process.
    MSI_Extract-r4e.7z

    After extraction I additionally delete all the manuals besides the english one (saves about 530MB),
    write an inno script to create a little Setup file that runs the msi installer as admin
    and then I put everything into an iso image and compress it using 7z to 1,8GB.

    To save even more space, you can add "Ableton Live 11 Suite.exe" directly into the installer folders
    and replace the ableton updater with a dummy or simply delete it.

    The Image structure then looks like this:
    [​IMG]
     
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  7. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    looks like this got broken by Live 12.
    the method as described above doesnt work anymore, you cant unpack the MSI file from the setup executbale anymore via UniExtract.

    now i need to install everytime. awesome everytime Push driver is installed, and the whole ableton installer is stashed into the installer cache. awesome and the installer takes so long to install (10mins with a decent SSD ughhh), while unpacking took 1-2 mins max ...
    Ablllettttoooonnn.
     
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    As the years go on I find myself shaking my fist at the sky screaming "Abletooooooooooooooon" more and more. lmao. Sometimes (more often these days) it feels like they're being deliberately obtuse in the ways and reasons that they do things.
     
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    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    if i can, i simply use their inbuild upgrade function. the ableton installer is hideous slow ...

    maybe @r4e has an ideas how to unpack the MSI file? would be nice.
     
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  10. luckyLuke7

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    I will stick with Ableton 11 for now with this unpack trick thanks Artic you're a genius.
    If someone discover a hack for Ableotn 12 let us know pls!
     
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    Use sandboxie. Use symlinks wherever needed. I have portables for - ableton, bitwig, studio one, waveform, reaper and all the plugins.
     
  12. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    but you still need to install it one time atleast, before being able to use the update feature and we are still looking for a better way. Since the Ableton installer is super super slow - i dont even know what the installer does, which could take so long.
     
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  13. BoK

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    I've found a way to unpack the .msi so now we can unpack the whole thing using lessmsi.

    You'll need:
    - Wix binaries (wix314-binaries.zip): https://github.com/wixtoolset/wix3/releases
    - Lessmsi binaries: https://github.com/activescott/lessmsi/releases

    - Unpack Wix and get these 3 files: dark.exe, wix.dll, winterop.dll
    - Drop them in a new directory together with the "Ableton Live 12 Suite Installer.exe"
    - CMD as Admin: dark.exe "Ableton Live 12 Suite Installer.exe" -x C:\DestinationFolder
    - You'll find a folder called "AttachedContainer" inside your destination folder
    - Inside, a file called a2 (11.540 KB) is the one we need so rename it to add the msi extension
    - Drop that "a2.msi" to the folder were you've unpacked Ableton's zip
    - Use lessmsi with a2.msi and unpack to your desired directory
    - Done!

    In case you need it, there's also an "a1" file unpacked by dark.exe. Thats Ableton USB Audio driver, rename it to msi and install.
     
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  14. DrippySnuffelz

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    Powerfull Witchcraft , UniExtract and lessMSI(i had a bug were the extract would freeze - using the explorer shortcut fixed that) did it for me - Ableton_live_suite_11.3.20_64 installed without problems. The thing is i am not shure (i did not start Ableton...) about the next step - do i need some r2r and patcher magic to get Ableton fully unlocked ?
     
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    Thanks for your guide - i managed to install Ableton Suite 11.3.20 with UniExtract and lessMSI(i had a bug were the extract would freeze - using the explorer shortcut fixed that)....do i need R2R keygen/patcher for the unlock ?
     
  16. ArticStorm

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    thanks for this solution! i just wish ableton would make partial installers aswell.
    most of the newer versions, have only a few files updated, not even 200MB! But this only wishful thinking.
     
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