So I just got two Seagate 2tb hard drives I had one installed and installed windows 8 then hooked the other hard drive up inside my computer it shows that its there in device manager but not be on my computer did I do wrong by not installing windows with both inside the computer? I have tried changing sata plugs on mother board using different sata cables and nothing changed also what are the different plugs coming off my power supply?labeled p5 p6 p8?

 

No, you install windows on the 1st drive, then insert 2nd drive and Windows should see it. Have you formatted the 2nd drive (NTFS)? if not then windows will not see it.

Also a driver may be missing or incompatible, especially if you have an older motherboard which was designed for Windows XP/7 and you have updated to Windows 8, check your motherboard manufacturers website for any new drivers.

Plugs - without knowing the manufacturer and model number for the power supply it's a bit difficult to answer, are they molex connectors (white rectangular shape with 4 cables)?

 

That was the problem the second drive said unallocated and had to format thanks for the reply its running now let the games begin ..... INSTAL TIME !!!

 

What windows you're using ?, if Windows 7,8,8.1 then do this :

Method 1 :

1 - > Right click on your computer icon on your desktop,

2 - > a list will show up choose "manage" the third one, (mine is in frensh so i don't know the actual word)

3 - > a windows will show up down there you will see "Storage,Disk Management" Click on it,

4 - > now you will see all devices connected to your computer, Hard drivers, DVD readers ...

5 - > Choose the drive you purchased and right click there is many options, search for "new partitions" something like that, and follow instructions until you format and it will show-up

this is method 1, or simply, you insert an Windows install DVD, do every thing until you go to the window where you choose the drive to install windows on it, be careful chose the new hard drive, format it and close the install window ( Reboot ).

that's it now you should be able to use your new hard drive, i personally recommend you the second Method, simple and better and the most important that it's better for the drive

hope i could help

 

This can be because of a few reasons the most likely of which are it isn't set up in Disk Management so you need to assign a drive letter or it is because of the lack of support in Windows 8 for some drive models. I have had no luck getting my Hitachi Touro Pro to work and upon contacting the manufacturer they eventually admitted that they submitted everything to Microsoft so the USB team there is responsible because they haven't issued a fix for this since Windows 8 came out which was almost 2 years ago. If it asks you if you want to initialize your drive then make sure you don't and put some pressure on Microsoft to issue a fix. You'll know which one it is once you see if the Disk Management method works or if it even shows up there (mine doesn't).

 

Dude, there is no such a thing lol )

if the drive is plugged Windows will detect it unless you have problem connecting it, but if the drive isn't showing up that can be a problem of hard drive format NTFS,FAT32...

all you have to do is format it, and the system will give a random letter, it depend on the devices connected to your machine

and as i said, use my secend method and all will be ok.

 

Yes there most definitely is such a thing and formatting is not a solution for everyone particularly if you have sensitive data on the drive. Windows is unable to properly mount certain external drives, they currently have a registry hack that is supposed to work on some drives but it didn't on mine.

 

There are issues with windows 8 not recognizing some secondary hard drives, and it is down to driver problems. I have seen/read somewhere that installing raid drivers for your motherboard can help. Device manager picks it up because it has been recognized (hardware) but Windows can not show anything because unless it is formatted correctly (software), nothing will show up on the My Computer screen. Always worth checking BIOS to make sure your secondary drive has been recognized as well.

 

Dude it is never the OS problem if the hard drive don't show up, that could be your motherboard, the cables stuff like that, if it properly connected to your machine it will show up, if not format it, that's it ^^

i'm plugging in 6 Hard drive on my desktop machine right now and all of them works great, after a format of course, never had sush a problem (windows 8 don't recognize drives) if he do i recommend updating your bios

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrwUnIDYPlE

Checking your BIOS for your hard drive will usually determine if you have any problems with cables / connectors / etc Updating the BIOS will not solve faulty connections

 

Ok the actual problem on the video that when he made a new partition on the new hard drive while installing the windows, he forgot to make another partition with the left space from the drive so Windows (and not just 8, all of them!) read only the first partition and not rest that it is not even a partition, the first method that i mention will solve, same as the video, but the problem is, when you put the whole drive into another computer there is a risk that he don't recognize the second partition the one you made using "Disk management" and ask you to format it again in order to access it, so that's why i recommend the second method.

basically Windows wont recognize a no-existing partition. and that it's not his fault LOL :p

 

Mr. Lyann Music
Hitachi Touro Desk Pro

Notice the 57 people that voted that it's not compatible? Notice the threads people have opened on this matter? That's beside the fact that I actually talked with someone at Hitachi. It doesn't show up in Disk Management but worked beautifully on XP. When I open Disk Management it asks me if I want to initialize my drive which is code for bye bye data so I cancel. It shows up in Device Manager as a SCSI device. It's a problem with the code, something to do with Windows properly mounting some stupid proprietary drive encryption or something like that. Simple drives don't have this issue, I have a vanilla 1 TB without all those stupid hardware features and it works beautifully. I actually brought this EXACT thing up when I first joined here to show that hardware encryption is stupid and problematic and somebody actually cursed me out for it.

 

Well, I must be totally thick, but I have watched that video a few times now and can not spot where he says anything about partitions, he definitely says external( or extra internal or additional) hard drive NOT being recognized by Win8, can you point me where about in the vid he says partition or refers to partitions apart from when he quickly shows you how to format the unallocated part of his main drive (which is recognized) at the end of the vid? @5:19 you can clearly see his extra drive is now showing whereas @1.15 in disk management it is not showing, and all he has done is install some extra drivers for win8 OS Not an OS problem then?

 

It's a problem with the OS not being able to mount drives with encryption features, that's why it loads my drive as SCSI.

 

Virtualbox XP or 7 should do the trick and of course good ole Linux

 

I was thinking of using a live CD to at least get the data off but it sucks that I'm losing 2 TB. Not to mention it's been almost 2 years and I think it's pathetic that Microsoft hasn't issued a fix. I wrote them a nasty message on their development blog because besides my entire music collection being on there I have pictures of my dead father and tons of audio stuff. I think that since I actually bought this copy of Windows I should get a fix... at least after 2 freaking years.

 

is there a way to disable the hdd encryption features on the drive itself?

 

Not that I know of. They told me one option is to destroy the casing and either get an enclosure or put it as an internal. Of course I knew that but didn't want to have to do it.

 

@Catalyst & @SirSillySausage,

let me make this fast, as i remember, there was another type of hardrives Before the IDE and the Sata, and it was SCSI, as i remember when fixing a machine using these types of hard drives, there was a PCI Controller connected to the motherboard, and from that PCI Controller the SCSI ribbon was connected to it and the hard drives, anyway,

what i was talking about the no-existing partition is this http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=818195Unallocated.jpg

as i know windows 8 don't support this kind of hard drive anymore, while XP is still having the drivers and the stuff to make it work.

btw the guy who made the video is a nooby, because when he tried opening the CD drivers, the auto-run said that this is not compatible, let me tell you this, one of the main reasons that Windows Vista has fail is this kind of problem "compatibility", but Microsoft did catch up and fixed this by making anything that work on XP or vista Will automatically work fine on Windows 7,8,8.1... so when he installed the drivers of the missing SCSI wich your External Hard drive is using all worked, i have an Seagate Backup+ and it working really good, on both of Windows, and Mac OSX after installing an NTFS system on my mac, the one to blame here about your problem Catalyst is your Hard drive manufacture for using such an outdated system, they need new developers lol.

PS : my mac is a Hackintosh, but it works perfectly.

i'll be happy to help you guys on these stuff just send me an mp and i'll try to do my best, i've had this kind of problems but years ago, i used 95 98 2000 XP Vista 7 and both of 8 and 8.1 i can assure you Microsoft did a great Job on Windows 8 and 8.1 there was some kind of little bugs on 8 and they were all fixed on the new 8.1 with updates.

 

@Mr Lyann Music the topic of this thread was not about partitions, it was about a non recognized Hard drive. Please read my initial response. I stated that if the hard drive was not formatted windows will not see it although it is showing up in device manager, indicating that all connectors (and drivers) are good. I also pointed out that some secondary hard drives are not being recognized by win8 and Catalyst has backed me up on this point. The point of the video is he was able to demonstrate how to get his additional drive to show up in win8 by means of installing a software driver so that win8 recognizes the second hard drive, either formatted or unallocated. And I bet Catalyst's hard drive was using a windows generic driver with XP, so why not the same generic windows driver with win8?