There were links on the first page.. but unavailable for violating something or someone. And now there is only a dot left..

I just woke up.. it's almost 4 am here ..thought I'd flip a tune and go back to bed. ;)

 

I hope it happens because he's dodged it after asking if he can post it. Dodged it again when I mentioned there was so much we can get from text without examples.

Tuxoa left when he did because he's got a fucking score to make and I've sat here still trying to help him cause I'm apparently tarded as fuck.

Faithless - Insomnia all month, glad you slept though.

 

People on this forum discouraged me from uploading it. But I already had, so I deleted it. They said the answer is simply to copy the sections from a different song. Intro/ Verse 1/ Pre-Chorus/ Chorus etc. This I do not understand

Do you use FL Studio or another daw? So I know what to provide. If you dont use FL I'll provide the audio stems and MIDI. And also is there a genre you would be more comfortable with arranging? I can provide on of my attempts at EDM/ Prog House or a 80s synthpop one?

 

put up the Midi anyway, you might get some cool samples back

 

I appreciate your attempts at helping me so far @Donut Nyamer but please stop sending more and more replies here. Many of which are troll comments, I am very serious, I want to learn this. I am trying to get a second opinion from someone new and maybe I'll understand it better from them. Or maybe they'll give better advice. Since everyone on this forum has different levels of experience in music and intelligence. I do appreciate your efforts.

Albert Einstein — 'If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.'

My regards to everyone that has tried to help me so far.

 

How to learn arrangement

How to Arrange a Song in 10 Easy Steps
https://www.supremetracks.com/how-to-arrange-song/

14 ways to turn your song ideas into a great arrangement
https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/...ur-song-ideas-into-a-great-arrangement-183143

 

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I think listening to how other composers/producers (that you like) make things happen can be beneficial. Especially in the beginning. Than you can always do your stuff..

I don't use FL studio (manly use ableton/reaper). It would be nice to have audio (whole song), stems, maybe MIDI - in that order. Any of the genres that you mention will do. Just post your favorite tune.

Maybe I'll see that you are already above my skills ..and then someone else can help you. Nothing really bad can happen if you upload your work. And I think veeery few people just come up with great ideas/arangements/.. all the time ;)

 

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Just so everyone is clear, and so you can help me as best as you can, here is an example of what I'd typically make:

The genre is EDM, specifically Progressive House e.g. Avicii, Zedd, Calvin Harris


As you can see I make a chord progression loop/ pattern and the same for drums, melody and bass. It is 4 bars in this instance, but sometimes I'll come up with an 8 bar melody. This is all I'd typically make as I do not know how to arrange it into a full song without it instantly sounding boring. Together these loops/ patterns sound okay to me but when I try to arrange it (clone patterns and move them around etc.), it sounds very boring/ repetitive and I am not sure when and where to use FX samples and breaks to make it interesting. As a result I've never made a full song just these loops. I have looked at remakes of songs in this genre and they employ the frequent use of FX, but I don't know in which context to use which FX.

Please help me end this cycle, so I can make full songs!

This is the template I was advised to make by @Plainview

 

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Thanks I'll check those out!

Thanks I will just re-upload that funky 80s synthpop song I attempted to make, I uploaded before.

 

I probably could have given suggestion on arrangement. That is if you had direct links where we could have listened. The links you gave wanted me to install an app so I never got to hear. When I work arrangement I let the vocals dictate the arrangement.

 

The problem is I don't have any vocals to work with and I'm not a vocalist myself, I just want to make some good instrumentals

I'm re-uploading it, waiting for it. I'm guessing that the reason I cannot arrange is because I don't know where to go next to keep it interesting.

 

Here you all go, I did not archive it this time, so you can choose specifically what to download. You can view all files online. Inspired by Kraftwerk.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7ljyvdm57ay6/user1293435134+-+80s+Synthpop+-+Audio+Stems

If you've listened to the "full track" you'll notice it stops abruptly as I don't know where to go next to keep the song interesting. Hoping someone can finish what I started and they can explain what they did so I can learn how to make songs not just loops/ patterns.

 

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The thing is these are mostly trap producers not electronic. EDM is all about keeping certain energies up to make the track danceable. But thanks.

 

LOL people have flat out told you how to get better at arrangements by putting in time markers and using that basic theory knowledge to make your next part. You said you had problems with arragement then you said you had problems making a melody and then a whole beat. You're the troll and I was had which is why I'm never going to try to help another noob again. You flat out said people should do it for you by spoonfeeding you.

Nobody is going to do it for you, it's your music. You will try to simply do it yourself if you care about your music. You were too lazy to even google a simple question for yourself and wouldn't give examples of your shit but want this help in the form of "do it for me guise. It really sucks to make sucky stuff."

If you weren't up to an aragement should have started your thread with can i has basic theory knowledge and how do you doot the melody together.

 

Arrangement is making a whole beat/ instrumental. If you don't know how to arrange can you make an entire song? No. A horrible one maybe. Which is what I was making when I tried to, which demotivated me from continuing. Hence why I came here to ask for advice from experts on how to arrange/ make full songs that are actually listenable, bad or good. Even a bad song makes sense in the way it is structured/ arranged. I don't know at all how to arrange songs in a way that holds attention of a listener, when I try it is sounds very boring/ repetitive.

Like I have said many times I appreciate the help from everyone who contributed but I'll take all the help I can get. Yes, people said something about time markers. If I follow those however it does not keep the song interesting.

 

just to be clear what you are having is not a minor problem to be addressed its literally 90% of the music making process , making a 4/8 bar loop is the easiest part most of the work is on the arrangement , my best advice to you is to watch live streams for how a full song is made https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqeYOThebLKYlvVeozxeR1Q to get the idea and then try to learn from actual songs you like

 

You weren't up to making an arrangement from the looks of the bones in your screen shot. You clearly haven't even made all the parts for an arrangement to be spoken of. Do that then do the markers. Done.

Nobody here is an expert, everyone is learning. Again. You need at the very least like 3-6 parts for there to be an arrangement. You clearly need to sit there and practice making the second part. Because I can tell you right now nobody is going to be sitting around finishing it for you. Last night you had every chance to try yet you kept on chatting cause you like it.

 

Thank you, another piece of advice that sounds good.

 

Please list which parts I need to make a full song. As I showed in the screenshot, I normally only make the elements for the chorus/ hook. Chords, melody, bass, drum pattern. You will probably say make a loop for the verse. Tell me how or send a good resource on it.