Tokyo Dawn Labs - OD DeEdger





Video introduction to OD DeEdger by Dan Worrall

Overview

DeEdger introduces a new way of reducing the hardness of audio signals without negatively altering the original signal qualities.

The plugin operates in a threshold free manner, thus can comfortably handle any input signal level, type, and dynamic range. Where other plugins might under or over process, DeEdger only applies processing if any hardness is detected. Once detected, the hardness will be smoothed with remarkable elegance. After its initial setup, DeEdger can be left in a “set and forget” configuration without further attention.

Intricate time and frequency dependent mechanisms allow DeEdger to provide a very transparent process throughout. The initial concept, developed by a professional mastering engineer, focused on the demands of modern audio mastering and has also turned out to be equally useful for mixing.

Key Features

- Control the hardness of audio material while preserving dynamic impact and musicality
- Suitable for complex stereo material, including individual tracks and subgroups
- Low CPU load
- Intuitive user interface
- Set and forget

Ohlhorst Digital is a brand by Jan Ohlhorst. Initially developed exclusively for his work as a mastering engineer, these well refined products are now being made publicly accessible.

To be clear - it is plugin developed fully by Jan Ohlhorst aka Ohlhorst Digital. Tokyo Dawn Labs guys only released this, support and added extra code to plugin.

Original concept, DSP code, and GUI design by Jan "karumba" Ohlhorst
Additional code & support by Vladislav Goncharov and Fabien Schivre
Special thanks to Dan Suter (echochamber) and Jo "Sirjai" Piehl.
Many thanks to our beta testing team:
Shane Johnson, Dax Liniere (Puzzle Factory), Dean "nekromachine", Gregg Janman
(Hermetech Mastering), Ilpo Karkainen (Resoundsound), Ilya Orlov, Jeff Rippe
"Nonlinear", Jerry Mateo, Jonas Ekström (Mastertone), Laurent Sevestre
(Maximalsound), Mario "EvilDragon", Mario "susiwong", Miguel Marques (Bender
Mastering Studio), Murray Campbell "Beatworld", Niklas Silen "bmanic", Nil Hartman,
Rich Prewett, Roland Löhlbach "Compyfox" and Vitaly Zolotarev.
Copyright © Tokyo Dawn Records 2017. All rights reserved.

Updated to 1.1.0:
# Added M-only and S-only channel mode option which can be setup by toggle-clicking the M/S button
# Added new "adaptive load" mechanism that dynamically unloads all filters & deactives all processing when there is no input signal
# Fixed bug where frequency change was not assigned under certain cases with "Focus Listen" activated
# Significantly reduced CPU load by further optimizing DSP framework
# Slightly adjusted Q dependent loudness compensation in "Focus Listen" mode

 

Last edited: Jul 4, 2017

Hotfix update is on the horizon.
A question of several hours or day(s).
One of the issues is a "compensation" button which is always ON. It becomes ON when gui is closed, or when you switch back to plugin again. It is going to be fixed soon.

Btw, demo can be used without any request it to be crakkd. Why? The limitations of demo are:
1) it doesn't save your presets and adjustments / opens default preset (automatic recall doesn't work)
2) copy-paste doesn't work.(who the fck really needs this for 3-knob plugins? Other people's presets are nothing for subtle improvements. do it by careful listening, not by blindly suggested presets)

So, your recall sheet to back up your presets and adjustments is your sheet of paper and pen. What's the problem to write down settings of 3 knobs and 3 buttons (compensate, focus listen and one-of-the-stereomode button)?
Or another best solution - screenshots.
Or another solution - adjust plugin and render.

It equals "free with some slightest pain in ass", than buying it for this crazy money. Plugin works subtle, but it is too expensive.

 

Last edited: May 26, 2017

As much as I respect Tokyo Dawn Labs, I would rather have them use technical terms in their plugin announcement.
"hardness" could've been explained better.

having that said, I could barely hear any difference in the youtube vid.
That may be presented as a good thing, but why not include extreme possibilities?

if you don't want to up the ratio of the knob make it a slider or add a 2x knob?

I don't get it, especially with TKLabs involvement.

maybe in the bright future who knows.

 

Never tried any TDL plugins. What makes them so different/special compared to others? Have heard praises on some forums.

 

So, it is NOT a Tokyo Dawn Labs TDR plugins.
It is fully made by Jan Ohlhorst aka Ohlhorst Digital, who collaborated for TDR SlickEQ M.
Vlad and Fabien from TDR are just "additional code and support", as I think they did that panel bar and menu, and something like that. Support probably mean that they liked the idea and dsp under the hood and they just promote that plugin thru their Tdr site.

Hardness...as I read from gearslutz, I did the conclusion from comments that this plugin smooths transients and sharp attacks.
DeEdger, or desharper, flattens the sound for not to be so digital and hard for ears. Darkening attack without affecting its quality.
If compare with Bx_refinement, oeksound soothe, they deharsh resonances which are annoying (from zh to sh, from zz to ss, or so), while DeEdger is mostly does from Tick to tICK, TSin to tSIN.. Or something like that. Bad explanation. Read gearslutz in Mastering forum thread and New Products Alert thread. More info and reviews are there.

Concept is good, and it is still not ready. Because with maximum Depth plugin works much more noticeable with normalized loud audio, and almost no processing with not normalized -6dB quieter. Compared on same source. So, more input gain, more stuff is processed by plugin.

There is no delta mode in plugin to hear what is happening, but it is not an issue to null/flip phases. 1 track with plugin, 2 track without. Invert the phase on one of the track and there is the difference. Both tracks must be gain matched. In most cases you will hear crackles, clicks, crunches.. But it's not a declicker or decracker. Frequency dependent compressor of fast annoying moments or so. Limiter of crunchiness.

The contrary plugins for adding harshness and hardness, probably is Airwindows Bite. It adds edge and glass crunch to your high frequency attacks and transients, brightens transients. But with different samplerates it behaves different. For higher samplerates it adds more airy crunch, but for 44.1 It is between high mids and "air " highs.

Maybe it is better to test with hell-added Bite, then try DeEdger to deharden. Maybe more chances to hear difference and how it behaves for subtle and surgical work.
Need more testing, because I was testing DeEdger only for 15 minutes on laptop tweeting speakers, heard not so much, but noticed bug, as usual :D

 

In my expirience the prize. You get really good quality really cheap. But thats the most special thing they offer. Tokyo dawn labs are the vallhalla dsp guys of EQs and compression.

 

Will demo a few, already dl the freebie kotelnikov.

 

Yeah agree on that one
Other plugins can do similar things of course but for the same quality normally you will pay a lot more.
This new plugin looks real interesting. They are good company really in that they offer some pretty damn decent plugins for free with some cool extras on the paid versions.
Think Nova my personal favourite and can do some cool things with that one. Definitely worth checking out especially as there some cool free versions

Again is a pretty cool plugin for free Is newer version of say the old feedback compressor plugin they did.
Is quite good for using as say bus compressor and pretty cool for messing with dynamics.
The other plugins they do worth checking out also as they useful and free which always cool

 

Last edited by a moderator: May 26, 2017

Very simple, short answers :
Brilliant code, ideal maths inside, top notch mastering grade dsp from ITB mastering side.
Technically best implemented.
Concept to be innovative than others.
Transparentest compression, equalization.
Artefactless with very extreme settings.
Proudly digital, offering new quality.
Never harsh saturation if you do this there.
Low/extremely lowest CPU and ram consumption.
Very cheap for full advanced versions, of free but still pro with 75-85%of functionality in comparison with full version.
A lot of stuff inside plugin if go deeper.
Solving the most problems in audio using 1 plugin instead of several brands.
Simplicity for surgical invisible processing.
While doing a lot of surgical chemistry with Tdr plugins, you are not loosing musicality.
While achieving musicality, half of surgical needs becomes not mandatory due to musicality.
Affects quality less, while improving more.
Tools for almost all mixing / mastering / restoration / remastering needs.
Better than izotope ozone advanced, if compare price, implementation and dsp quality.
Digital. But Natural.
Only stupid and deaf can spoil audio with TDR
Further evolution with updates to make more revolution in digital audio.
Top and popular true mastering engineers have Tdr in arsenal, and proudly love it.
I can't live without Tdr, as well as dmg, izotope rx, reaper, acustica audio and some other stuff. I have almost all in my arsenal, but Tdr and dmg are at first place.

Btw, soon there will be vladgsound's limiter N6 reissue by Tdr.

 

Well, now you got me really interested. Thanks for the indeep analysis.
How is your kid doing? Hope all is good

Thank you for the info as well @Kloud

 

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The dynamic eq(TDR nova) is amazing and is free, test, really worth

 

That's why I read articles, look through developers' discussions, blogs, their speech, experience in dsp doing, engineering and mastering discussions, analyse how their plugin implemented, listen first from technical side, than if it is Okey, I start to analyse it from musical side and other aspects. If technical side is broken, it starts to break your musicality and antiengineer your sound in a worse way from the beginning of inserted instances.
I also like then 2 or more top grade developers with great dsp skills are involved into the process of making software. Then, when there are mastering engineers are better testers, such as Katz, Ohlsson etc.
Without Lukin, for example, izotope would be much worse, more overhyped to sell all this without Lukin dsp involved.
Don't be afraid of Tdr stuff.
Test and analyse, from both technical and musical side. If everything goes better than you could imagine, they are your tools forever. Until something better released.

Yeah, thanks too much. Kid is better than excellent) funny and cool. I am happy and proud.

 

1.0.1
# fixed bug where "Active" & "Compensate" button was re-enabled when UI window was closed & reopened.

 

Tdr Nova can be used single-band compressor, multiband compressor, equalizer, dynamic eq. Separately, or everything at once.
It perfectly deharshes as well.

 

The Dev explaining the Plugin (in German):

 

1.1.0

# Added M-only and S-only channel mode option which can be setup by toggle-clicking the M/S button
# Added new "adaptive load" mechanism that dynamically unloads all filters & deactives all processing when there is no input signal
# Fixed bug where frequency change was not assigned under certain cases with "Focus Listen" activated
# Significantly reduced CPU load by further optimizing DSP framework
# Slightly adjusted Q dependent loudness compensation in "Focus Listen" mode

I reported also about a typo in word in Credits from About window, will be fixed soon.

 

now this is a gimmick not the lurssen

 

why? 3-4 instances with maximum Q and depth and you will hear attacks and transients are squashed and smoothed) one instance with maximum settings is too subtle)
For "earbuds/usual end listeners" mp3 and aac is enough - they internally kill transients more than DeEdger) :DDDD