Time to replace 2012 Mini. Decision:M4 Max Studio or M4 Pro Mini

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  1. mr.personality

    mr.personality Producer

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    I'm willing (albeit hesitantly) to swing the $2K for the new base model Studio. As far as getting a Mini though, my issue is how inexpensive a model can I get away with that will be powerful enough for perhaps as long my 2012 Mini has (may not live that long anyway, lol)

    IOW, if a sufficiently spec'd mini is gonna save me *only* 1-6, maybe 7 hundred dollars, I'd might as well splurge for the Studio. Also, because on top of a Mini's price, I'm going to automatically add and extra $1-200 for a hub for added ports (controllers and such)

    I use Logic and Live. If I just did audio recording, the under a thousand Mini's probably be overkill. But I like doing a lot of synth stuff, so I'd like to be able to run as many instances of Omnisphere, Kontakt, Falcon, etc without ever worrying about choking the cpu pretty much any more.... not that I'd ever run a ridiculous amount anyway.

    All peripherals are USB3 & 2.... controllers, interface, dongles, eternal HDD's, hubs, docking stations.

    So after 13 years with my Mini, all the new ports got me scratching my head a little. I understand I'm going to need usb3 female > usb C male adapters.

    I'm a bit unsure what I need for at least one of my dual monitor setup. ( 2 Dell 16:10 U2412's iirc)
    One of those is using the HDMI port and the other is connected to one of the Thunderbolt ports via
    a mini display port adapter (Apples I do believe)

    If I got a Studio, I take it I can do the same.... one HDMI, and the other using a thunderbolt port, however I do believe I will need some new kind of mini display port adapter for this new TB connector?

    Or I suppose getting one of those Satechi (sp?) hubs if I got a Mini that has an HDMI port I can use that instead.

    Looking at youtube, some say get the 512gb ssd because you can put all your applications on an external instead. For example those satechi hub things has a slot for extra storage. I didn't know you could do that. As you know, DAWs like Logic, Live, etc installs a lot of shit in your Libraries and Documents folders, to name two. I always understood all that stuff is all part of the system and shouldn't be moved around and messed with.

    Thanks for listening
     
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  3. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    You are going to need an external drive no matter what, imo. Even if you get a 1TB internal SSD. The SSD upgrade is too expensive to justify to me. But the RAM upgrade is important, because you really do not want 16gb RAM for audio work. 16 gb RAM is the perfect bare minimum, but you really want some overhead, like always.

    You will probably want to get a Thunderbolt hub or "dock" also. You can put tons of stuff on an external using Aliases, like symlinks. You want your applications and actual .Component plugins on your system disk for fastest access speeds, but putting all the massive content that goes with them all can be on your external. Same thing with Logic Library, all other samples, Kontakt or Falcon libs, Serum presets. No problem at all.

    If you get a Thunderbolt hub/dock, you can run your monitor off it, but there are also plenty of convertor cables like tb3->hdmi or dvi; and sorting out your monitor will be easy. You will also likely get a SD and other card reader, and an ethernet port in the hub too.

    Maybe because I am still of the Mac Pro mindset, that I do not see these Mini or Studio machines as highly durable units. I am surprised you still have one from 2012 unscathed. So for me, myself and I, I am inclined to get a Mini "for now" to the tune of $1000 before sinking $2K into a Studio that I am no less skeptical about it lasting 10 years. It's still a mini computer compared to a 5,1 cheesegrater. They are still "new" ARM processors and each new CPU update are still improving very quickly. I do not think I will end up keeping one for long enough to justify the extra thousand bucks, only to replace it with something way faster in 2 years or what have you.

    Pre-ARM Apple Silicon, I would have wanted the most powerful machine within budget, and be planning to use it for about 5-7 years. Now, not as long.
     
  4. mr.personality

    mr.personality Producer

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    All my samples/libraries are on external drives spread on 2 bare hdd's in an OWC usb3 dock. That's what I'm going to still be using for now.
    All the other stuff used with DAW, controllers/interface are usb2 devices.
    My Mini still chugging along but I do want to upgrade Logic (I'm currently stuck at 10.4.8) Live 11, fugget about it.... takes 15,20 minutes to open a project. Logic opens normally but I have Live and want to use it and my mini's no longer cutting it for that
     
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