Time-Stretching Vocals

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  1. au38wzh

    au38wzh Platinum Record

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    How do you time stretch?

    I made a remix and wanted the vocals to be slower and keep the pitch.

    This is how I did in Studio One:
    1. Found the original tempo of the vocals.
    2. Gave the vocal-audiofile in studio one the original tempo (right click on vocal-audiofile. set tempo.)
    3. Changed the tempo in the project. play the song -> loads of drop-outs/crackles.
    4. Exported the vocals as audio file (with the new project tempo).
    5. Imported the exported audio-file into slower project. now, the audio-vocals match and no drop-outs/crackles.

    I'm happy with the result.
    Original tempo was 112bpm. went down to 100pbm. then to 90pbm.

    though I'm happy with the result I wonder if there is a better 'time stretching algorithm' out there for PC (standalone or vst).

    Will check Celemony Melodyne and Waves Audio SoundShifter.

    I also wonder how much the quality of the original audio file influence the result.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. mild pump milk

    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    - iZotope RX4: Time&Pitch ("Stretch&Shift" window - works as with "iZotope RADIUS" technology, there is a lot of advanced setting to adjust, superior quality).
    - iZotope RX4: Time&Pitch ("Pitch Contour" window - select your position in RX editor to process and then click on "Time&Pitch" (Pitch Contour) - dram your pitch as you want, speed may not be changed, superior quality).
    - ProSoniq TimeFactory II (maybe newer exists) - I have never seen extremely high quality of time-stretching... But a lot of people maybe prefer mentioned above "Stretch&Shift" with RADIUS by iZotope, maybe they haven't tried ProSoniq TimeFactory II...just write original bpm and bpm you want to get, or percentage...choose algorithms - for vox, for instruments, high quality etc. listen them in all quality algorithms and compare. A lot of time too wait for render, because of extreme quality.
    sound forge, audition, etc. - a bit worse, hate them.

    Special recommendation: do you want to restore your vox from background sound, clicks etc. without destroying audio? i can make it for free for you. Days ago I restored vocals which I have "stole" from the track The Prodigy - The Day Is My Enemy. Super quality. I like to restore and edit, I'm pro, but no-one pays attention on editing etc. I can help you achieve best results. Just ask.
     
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    au38wzh Platinum Record

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    Thanks mild pump milk!

    Do I understand correct: You made an acapella from the Prodigy's song "The Day Is My Enemy"?
    If thats true, I'm more than happy to take advantage of your help to get best results :wink:


    About ProSoniq TimeFactory II:
    - It's only for Mac.
    - Zynaptiq Acquires Prosoniq Product Line and Technologies.

    Checking Zynaptiq products. PITCHMAP sounds intresting:
    "PITCHMAP is the world's first and only plug-in that allows processing the pitch of individual sounds within mixed signals in real-time. It lets you change the melodies and harmonies of any recording by simply playing your own on a MIDI keyboard or creating a pitch map using our stream-lined GUI, and optionally corrects any tuning issues at the same time. As if that weren't enough, PITCHMAP provides functions to suppress individual sounds within a mix, and can apply advanced synthesizer-like sound transformations to your audio. In short, it is an inspiring musical instrument, a precision corrective tool and the only processor that literally lets you shape music with your hands."
     
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    Prosoniq TimeFactory II for MAC ?????????????? :wow: :wow: :wow:
    And how I use this on my Win7 PC? :wow: It's not true, it works well on PC

    Yes, I made an acapella clean! I also restored all acapellas from "Prodigy-IMD" album, because I have flac instrumental. Phase inverting doesn't do everything, because different mixing/mastering and both analog. So a lot of restoration after phase inverting of original and instrumental - voila, clean IMD acapellas.

    I do a lot of restoration before someone sends me tracking. Spectral repairing, etc.....

    Zynaptiq - i haven't used it yet...
     
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