Time bomb with Modo Bass 2.0.2 (by R2R with "Automatic Registration (Windows)")

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  1. Blanche Neige

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    Where do you use your modo bass 2 by R2R?
     
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    oh I know, but at the same time; over 750 people completed downloads of this on other site. And no mention of your specific problem from anyone; other than in this thread.

    I looked at the keygen and notes files. There is a text file "Runtime", and all it says is:
    Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable 2022 (x64)

    I have never seen this in an R2R release before, but then I rarely look at anything for Windows. The instructions included are a little strange, too. This keygen has two fields below the automatic registration button, like a normal keygen; and above it an "automatic registration" button.
    The automatic reg is all that is mentioned in the notes, and nothing about DigitalID or an *.auth field which opens to locate an authorization file. As I mentioned earlier, the symptom you have sounds like the behavior of an expired demo, to me. I do not remember seeing any other r2r keygens "with automatic registration" before and that could be where things are going wrong. If the keygen is not supplied the other required data, it could possibly generate an invalid key.

    Could you verify the way you are using the keygen, or the keygen output are working correctly? What does the plugin behave like if you install it cleanly, and then do not use the keygen ? If somehow your registration attempt/generated key is not actually completing the authorization successfully, it should do the same behavior if you do not use it. You could also supply the keygen with a few incorrect digits deliberately, to see what it does with an invalid key.

    If you click in the keygen a few things, then "Automatic registration", the Log field at the bottom will show Authorization Successful message. It just did for me, and I do not even have the program installed.
     
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  3. Blanche Neige

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    We're not the only ones complaining about muted notes.
    https://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=30449&hilit=issue&start=15

    There were also relatively few people who complained about Omnisphere's presets not being saved compared to the number of downloads.
    Modo bass 2 is much less downloaded and is very recent. Omnisphere's time bomb lasted at least 10 years...
    And there were many people who said that there was no time bomb and spent their lives giving false solutions to a real problem.
    It took another cracker unknown to the scene to discover and launch a version without time bomb for R2R to wakes up and takes the complaints seriously...

    I've seen how modo bass looked like when it's in expired demo mode and it doesn't look like the current situation at all.
     
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  4. Blanche Neige

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    I use "Automatic registration".

    If I don't use the crack, there is a little window which talk about registrer... And I can't use the soft.

    I have never tried the other crack solution because I hadn't the requiered soft installed.
     
  5. _mahsofabish

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    iirc modo bass should burst noise when act as "expired"... am i right?
     
  6. Blickbard

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    I might have the same problem . Still have to check if it is not something else . The whole master channel gets muted here for some seconds . The other instruments are legit versions ( which means nothing ) but strange thing is it starts after some time . It seems to go away if I freeze Modo and unload but I will recheck ( machine is offline )
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    appears it was something different , cannot reproduce it right now
     
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    Simplewall is simple and useful :wink:
     
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    Internet is not the issue. People who haven't internet have this muted notes issue. It looks like a time bomb.
     
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    I get what you're saying. However it could be (only spit-balling, mind you) that even though you and a few others who may or may not have been internet connected at some point and then removed the connection, the damage may have already been done by a single phone call home. It might be worth it, if you have the means, put up a quick build on a completely wiped and clean system that is not internet connected by ANY means. No need to even optimize or anything other than shutting off A/V, install your DAW of choice and the plugins and see what transpires.
     
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    I have used the crack on a clean Windows 10 without internet. It seems to work. No time bomb.
    I have copy/past Modo Bass 2 files and reg entries of the clean Windows 10 on my regular windows 10.

    C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\IK Multimedia\MODO BASS 2\
    C:\Program Files\IK Multimedia\MODO BASS 2

    Reg entries on the clean windows 10:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]


    But when I have started Reaper, Modo Bass 2 was on demo mode...

    Maybe there are hidden files or registry entries?

    I have used again the auto patch. I will see if the time bomb occurs again.
     
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    FWIW, these are all the folders created or modified:
    C\Program Files\IK Multimedia\MODO BASS (MODO BASS 2)
    C\Users\(Current User Name)\Documents\IK Multimedia\MODO BASS (MODO BASS 2)
    C\Users\(Current User Name)\AppData\Roaming\IK Multimedia\MODO BASS (MODO BASS 2)
    C\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\MODO BASS (MODO BASS 2)
    C\Program Files\VstPlugins\MODO BASS (MODO BASS 2)

    I wouldn't use the same reg settings because the ones related to the registration are probably different on another PC. Let's see if patching again works
     
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    I don't know, I tested it more than an hour and 1/2 (but no continuous playing), no demo or nag or mute notes whatsoever.
    However I care to create rules or block anything that calls home with a firewall (3°th party, not windoz), if there are news I'll let you know.

    Now, see @saccamano here below, I was going to write more or less the same:
    Problem is, that is difficult to understand if now the machine is flagged by some hidden registry or other, it may be even impossible to reset it to a "virgin install" state.
    If you don't have a partition backup image, you can't "reset".

    You can, but I warn you, it's tedious and painful: reinstall MB but this time check the whole process with Sysynternal Process Explorer and RegMon and see what installation is going to tamper with, maybe you can discover anonymous registry entries of file creations that you'll have care to delete MANUALLY.
     
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    Since you have their other legit instruments installed, you must have IKM Customshop, too. So you register Modo Bass thru Customshop, not automatic? Maybe having Customshop and registering it with Customshop is the key to success? :wink:
     
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    sorry , I was not clear . The legit ones are by other companies .
     
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    Time bomb again... :(

    I have found cookie.txt inside : C:\Users\user name\AppData\Roaming\IK Multimedia\Authorization Manager



    Code:
    # Netscape HTTP Cookie File
    # http://curlm.haxx.se/rfc/cookie_spec.html
    # This file was generated by libcurl! Edit at your own risk.
    
    www.ikstore.com   FALSE   /   FALSE   0   PHPSESSID   de5268a29409b31b31d0cb78eb3ce7f7
    www.ikmultimedia.com   FALSE   /   FALSE   0   PHPSESSID   cmslk0ptgh4fsrbjnp3sfa8ck2
    .ikmultimedia.com   TRUE   /   FALSE   1686101998   lang   FR
     
    I will try to delete it to see if it solves the issue.
     
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    If they timebomb a release using a created or scrap object file, it's very unlikely to be cookie.txt somewhere associated with their product. Some have used variations of "deny" before, but it's usually much harder to locate manually, and will have some very odd or random filename. Because they try to hide it from you. They usually try to sneak out and wget a very small file; or if an auth check fails it can create the file locally.

    My guess is that it will TB again; sooner or later.
     
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    To go back to page 1 - have you tried firewalling off all apps and selectively re-enabling?
     
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    Fail... again...
     
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    They still have NIC installed, with internet connected or not. I probably mentioned earlier in the thread that the first posted Mac versions of this were not done either completely or correctly; which might lead you to believe they improved protection. Maybe 6 months later there is now some more information available to read. Or more reports of time-bombed other users. I looked on other site and there is still not 1 report of time bomb of Windows version 2.0.2.

    Why don't you put a packet analyzer like Wireshark or even use a more verbose Firewall app like Glasswire to see what it is trying to communicate with on the internet. If nothing (which I doubt), disable network interfaces and see what that does. You've had 6 months to test this yourself.....

    The first things I would do though, are to use Revo Uninstaller to get rid of it again. Install it again cleanly. If I had other software from the same vendor, I would consider doing something about that. If I had some straggler version of their Software Manager application, i'd do the same thing with that too. Almost 1000 people have downloaded it on site I looked at, and there is not 1 user with complaint of time bomb. Some complaining about keygen being flagged as malware, but that is all keygen.
     
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