The most compelling story of human creation

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  1. Xupito

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    This writer is amazing. Deep, philosophical and psychological sci-fi. Although not for everyone.

    "Dying Inside" blew my mind. That one is on my TOREAD list.
     
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  2. Willum

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    Using creationist own stupid logic against them, if you require a god to make life and it can't just appear without help.
    Who made god?
     
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  3. Grape Ape

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    god would have to have always existed and never not been. if its the source of all things, then concepts like life and death wouldnt apply too it, because it created it; so its outside of it
     
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  4. mr.personality

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    space jizz
     
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  5. rosko

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    Your questions do not make any sense to me, the behavior of particles is pretty well explained in fundamental physics & it has nothing to do with consciousness. Learn physics. Learn biology. Learn maths. You will find a lot of answers & even more questions.
     
  6. Sinus Well

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    And the deeper you dive into the oceans of knowledge, the more justified the question becomes as to how much consciousness there is in a particle.
     
  7. The King

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    I wish everything was as simple as you say.

    In this short video, he explains almost most of the fundamental events that have happened so far.

    Many efforts have been made to prove the correctness of these theories.

    But all these are theories that are constantly changing with new discoveries. When something new is discovered, these theories are shaken and some of them change to fit the new findings.

    But whatever they are, they are ultimately theories and based on findings.

    Many things are still undiscovered and therefore untheorized. If we are always trying to search for the truth and in the end, the results of our works are only a few findings that do not answer the main questions, what are the results of those endless searches?

    It may take a long time to reach the undiscovered aspects of the world, but in this seemingly endless world and considering the big limitations that we humans face, we may never be able to see these endless events like a puzzle before our eyes and reach the ultimate truth.
     
  8. Will Kweks

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    Wrote a wise man once:

    There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    There is another theory which states that this has already happened.


    Ehh, and really, first, this is how science is supposed to work. Find out what's quite not right with current knowledge and fix and tweak it better to improve it. Repeat. Second, the universal "truth" based on basic epistemology is that we can't know everything.

    And frailty in human communication either means we have to rely weird tools to transmit in any piece of "truth" anyway. Tools like complex mathematics or inexact human languages. In short, the taoists had it a long time ago: "The Dao that can be understood cannot be the primal, or cosmic, Dao, just as an idea that can be expressed in words cannot be the infinite idea.", or "Those that speak, don't know. Those know, don't speak know."

    Fun, ain't it?
     
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  9. Kate Middleton

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    i think everyone of us has their own reality.. i mean we all different.. i mean like you cant be kate middleton right? something separates our reality. maybe because we are individuals theres each universe for each one of us. you trying to solve the question of how everything was created? ask the aliens LOL
     
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  10. Zoketula

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    Well, since you asked. Humans were created for harvesting delicious organs. Earth is a buffet. Oh and stop eating all that crap. I am gaining weight.
     
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  11. The King

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    Was that man a scientist or a fiction novelist?:unsure:
     
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    To the OP: Why do you ask here? Are you too lazy (or too stupid) to read all the information that will lead you to an understanding? Others study these things a whole life long. But you ... go to a random forum, spew some bs, ask a few stupid meaningless and intelliless questions. Come up with some graphical nonsense, discuss about God.

    A main clue for you: There is no God. There is quantum mechanics, relativity theory, physics in general, and math. Boring? Yep. In parts. You have to do WORK, real WORK to wade through all this to come to an understanding. And you seem to be not willing to do that. Otherwise you wouldn't come in here willy nilly and start a "discussion" on kindergarten level.

    To get you started: Jaques Monod - Chance and Necessity. READ THAT. UNDERSTAND that. Then - eventually - COME BACK.
     
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  13. The King

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    The science of this kind, which is related to basic questions, is not always available to the general public. What is available to people is a number of 3D animations given by low-level institutions that are connected with science centers.

    Even in the case of researchers, there is a similar situation. Researchers have access to only a few articles, from which real information cannot be extracted.

    The issue of order in the world is very complicated that very few people may know about and the rest of the people have to entertain themselves with unreal stories every day.
     
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    Strong statement. Can you back it up? :bleh:
     
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    It's like watching a dog trying to understand why I wash my car.:bow:
     
  16. aschnt

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    The Univers, or God, is One. It's you, us, the magpie asking for attention on my roof, the plants around me, the wind urging to move on and all laws combined allowing behavior. It is what you see, hear, touch, imagine, think about, love, desire, fear. Rythm and melody, division and unity, it is an indefinite construction based upon memory.

    But let's not get too cocky, we may be the Univers itself in all it's might and glory, we're only an infinitely small extension of it. Matter is not designed to last but to ever be remodeled. Being human is of no real significance, it's a step in the evolution. Only consciousness matters so don't expect finding all the answers while you're here.

    Humans are humans to learn how to dominate themselves. This is the only "domination" to ever matter. Growing isn't answering how the sandbox was made, but to finally realise you don't need to build sandcastles anymore. Then, maybe, once the child has turned adult, he will understand what it takes to build the sandbox and make its own ?

    At least that's my perspective on this.
     
  17. Mynock

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    Jokes and trolling aside, Foster, I'm afraid you're not ready, but look for videos related Jan Val Ellam theme and this material may shed some light on you (I hope!).
     
  18. ClarSum

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    @The King
    What age range are you in and which region of Earth have you spent most of your existence in?
     
  19. Demloc

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    It is available to the general public one way or another, if the paper is paywalled you just have to search it on https://www.sci-hub.st/

    So I wish you safe travels into the world of theoretical physics. Please come back when you have a good understanding of what entropy is and how it can effect emergent properties on the universe.
     
  20. Will Kweks

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    Preprint servers are a godsend for scientists publishing results and researchers looking for papers both! arxiv.org and spinoffs (like ChemRxiv) are the saviors of modern science, if you ask me. Of course, sci-hub is there as well and it's also a great service to humanity, don't get me wrong.

    Pretty much any paper of note will be found in these.
     
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