The Insanity of Making Vinyl Records in 2025

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  1. Donald Reagon

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    In the end the master virtuosos of the technological peak and peak selling time of this tech would laugh at them ...i bet the secrets to get to the 110% are already lost and forgotten.
    ....like always when a certain tech time is over .
    Instead of doing your boredom posts maybe try to get to the proper level for the stuff you do on the other site .no front .

    EDIT ..or do some legendary out of nowhere shizzyle like DIMA did back then with .....:winker:
     
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    yeah, i guess my opinion on the schweinesystem... err the topic is somewhat similar to yours.

    mini-BD do exist - and they have the same size (8 cm), so the relative capacity is comparable with mini CD and mini DVD.

    but the market for fabricated copies was very small, they were mostly used for b2b commercial videos and things like that, at least i cant remember seeing them in shops somewhere.

    mini CD is 0,210

    mini DVD is 1,47 (double-sided also exists, their size would compare about with DVD-DL)

    likewise mini BD are 7,5

    they are mostly used for cameras, just as mini DVD-R were, but of course you can put anything you like onto them.

    the main issue is that they are so rare that they cost 6-8 euro per piece, which is more than ten times the price per MB than of BD-XL, not to speak of BD single or dual layer.

    however, 7,5 "gigabyte" (roughly up to 7100mb writeable space for data) means that you can put 7-8 albums in 44/24, or 5 albums in 44/32, or 2-3 albums in 96kHz on it.

    or write 1 album in already-decoded 7.1 audio on it.

    or (almost) one album in third order ambisonics (9 channels)

    or an album of 55 minutes in 44/16 or aac including a HD video track.

    not sure about players. it could be that better "mp3/CD/DVD/BD players" could play PCM audio right from data media, or it could be that not.
    (normally when it works for huge ones it should also work for 8cm media, but i dont know if it works for BD at all, as i have no idea about consumer gear)
     
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  3. Obineg

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    "you do not need money" from your consumer perpective means, that from the perspective of composers, instrumentalists and producers, that we will not get any money for our work.

    atm more than 100,000 titles are uploaded to spotify per day, and only 6 or 7 of them will ever make more than 1000 dollars within the first year.

    in 1995 every mediocre talented homerecorder could make 1000 dollars by selling 200 CDR or tapes to friends and on the 2 amateur gigs he played in the local wine bar.

    i know people who bought a new porsche for a quarter million bucks after releasing 3 maxis with shitty remixes. try that with apple music and you will see what i mean.

    so you believe in "times" or trends instead of just doing what you want?

    i had to look those numbers up on google... in 2004 only 0,5 million vinyl were sold in europe, in 2004 it was 4,9 million.

    during about the same period, the vinyl record even outran the CD media recently and now has >40% of all media sales.

    and this is without public domain, creative commons, promo copies and the black market.

    there are even manufactures now who use new materials instead of vinly, and most companies pressing vinyl are overrun and have long waiting times for new customers.

    that does not look like "over" to me.

    (sure, in 1980 ABBA alone sold more than 4,9 copies, but that is another question.)
     
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    I completely agree with "Xupito" (Save the Vinyl) And there's another fringe group for whom it makes absolute sense: Turntablism types who use a DVS system with real turntables and, for example, Serato as software. Because they can't get by without control vinyls. These have so far been in the standard 12" format, and the hype is currently moving toward portable turntables (eg.for an outdoor barbecue) with, for example, 7" vinyls (Reloop - SPiN) or for the future the brandnew (Namm 2025) Korg handytraxx! Examples:
    or 10Inch
     
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  5. Donald Reagon

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    i was talkin about the people once were producing vinyl in the peak time of the vinyl plate technology not the art which got cut into the vinyl , mate...should be obvious ,also cause the post was right after the pulsewave post with the people cutting vinyl .
    the peak time of a technology is not a trend .i kno my grammar suck bu usually people get what i mean . ok. here we go technological heyday was meant ,sry
    yeah is see them using turntables everwhere i go...eh eh
    i bet most buyers are over 40 .
    and most of the records were from far pre 1990.

    my gosh i like vinyl but i would never advice someone to do a pressing these days .
     
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