Techno track - raw idea learning new production styles for feedback

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  1. Bunford

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    Ok, so recently I've been listening a lot to techno in the styles of Drumcode, Adam Beyer, Thomas Schumacher, Enrico Sanguiliani etc, and the more minimal/trippy and hypnotic kind of vibe within some of the tracks has peaked my interest. I've spent a couple of hours playing about trying to learn some basic techniques, like the rumble, atmos, kick tricks, arps tricks etc and put this little bit together.

    It's pretty raw, largely unmixed and has virtually no FX on it, apart from a spot of reverb in a couple of places. It also hasn't had much arrangement work done to it either, and clearly needs more layers/atmos etc.

    However, would appreciated feedback and thoughts on the direction so far and anything you guys thinks are straight up good/bad about it so far. Cheers in advance!

     
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  3. Bunford

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    A quick bump as any feedback would be greatly appreciated :wink:
     
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    Okay.
    I'm @ 1 minute.
    What's up with the timing of the arp?
    Faster than kick in places...

    Click/pop at 3:30.

    Arrangement
    In music, an arrangement is a musical reconceptualization of a previously composed work. It may differ from the original work by means of reharmonization, melodic paraphrasing, orchestration, or development of the formal structure
     
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    It's meant to be a bit hypnotic/off what's expected, but it does sound strange (and kinda meant to) as the end of the arp line overlays the start of the next round a little, which is meant to kind of dislodge you from what's expected. The first note does circle round to meet the kick though if you listen closely. It was just experimenting mainly, and I hate straight up in sync arps, so was trying something different.
     
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    You've just dissed me.
    Ciao.
    Well, you've done the opposite to "hypnotic" by making it jarring like that.
    And I think the reason this hasn't attracted any comments for a week, even though it's been listened to, should be self explanatory...
     
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    You'll not reach Drumcode level after "recently listening" lots of techno. It's a pretty refined formula that you need to know intimately because absolutely every freakin bit of detail matters. Then your mixing skills must be absolutely perfect. You can't present a techno song unmixed and without fx because they make easily 40% of the song. Get back in 2-3 years :)
     
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    Just to clarify, I never said I only recently started listening to techno. I said recently listening to it a lot more, particularly styles of Adam Beyer/Drumcode. I've been listening to techno since the mid-90s when I was a teenager.
     
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    Fab. Thanks for the feedback :wink:
     
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    If I heard the click, (and you didn't) how dare you say this? :
    Rhetorical. Don't answer.
    I won't.
     
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    If you can't be bothered to mix it, or add FX, why should we bother to listen to it?

    Anyway... nice kick.

    The Arp sounds more like a country banjo. If you're going for "Cotton Eye Joe" style then you're on the right track.
     
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    Cheers. Will keep in mind. I'm looking for any kind of feedback, so this will be good for me to consider when I revisit it! :wink:
     
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    I just joined the forum today but have followed the site and scene since back in the efnet days, anyone around from the Audioz channel (and the rest) back then, Ive always wondered ;)

    Back on topic:

    It always make me cringe when people post tracks, wips, skecthes what have you, following up with I havent mixed this at all, I have barley set levels, used no or minimal fx yada yada yada (basically ive not really bothered my arse at all here).

    Which makes it a hard ask expecting others to put more effort into offering valuable and constructive feedback in reply.

    The irony is though ( and no disrespect to the OP I dont know anything about you. )But when you read these ive havent really done sod all comments,the opposite is often more true, be honest people its been mixed to your best shot in the moment or whatever while jamming, maybe more.

    If this doesnt apply to OP dont take this personally,im responding generally more than anything.

    Though another terrible trait is asking for feedback, getting it and challenging it,do you want to learn and progress or not people? ( you see this all the time too , arghh)
     
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    So much this:

    And be prepared to keep coming back it never ends. ( This comment is not in anyway Drumcode specific to be clear)
     
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    :rofl: that's really makes my day, thank you.
     
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    I heard the resemblence after reading that comment, it did make me chuckle, though theres elements of it I like at times when its not mega drifting incoherently as someone else pointed out, that kick sounds and sits quite nice for me too.

    Just think had the post been worded differently you would have more quickly got a more contructive and less snarky set of responses.
     
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  17. Fried Potato

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    Agree, not to disrespecting OP tho, that's post is just too funny :)
     
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    Sounds nice, yeah. Maybe because it's loud AF too.
    And more importantly, how he talks to people too...

    edit: okay, I've come back to being shoong and shūfu now. :winker:
    @Bunford I do like the sound of what you are doing, and your other stuff.
    If the arp weirdness is 'a thing' in Trance, then I admit I am not familiar with it. And I don't like it!
    Beyond that, all good.
    I'm not au fait with all the little nuances of certain genres of electronic music.
    Like, in Inbox a member from Brazil gave me some awesome Trap to critique, and there was some weird (to me!) glitchy aspect in the drums.
    But it was so prominent I had to decide it was 'a thing' in Trap sometimes.
    And when I asked, it was!
    And I didn't like that either! lol
    You do you, bro.
    See you in Wales sometime, maybe!
     
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