20VC: "...I created like 25 songs in the last few days".

This statement is truly absurd and would only be true if the very definition of creation is redefined. In the cited video in the first post, the word is repackaged, modified and of course necessarily redefined ala "Newspeak" to sell a product that's sole intention (besides, and which goes beyond saying, make as much profit as it can for it's investors) is to act as propaganda which is meant to further rope in and brainwash the masses that a passive existence is optimal while at the same time treating people like little puppies by petting them on the head while an animated voice heeps praises such as...Your such a good dog!!! "Peace is war" or "freedom is slavery" immediately come to mind. This is alternate reality shit and things like this are not even nearly opaque as they used to be any more. Managing the masses has become, if not an art form in itself, a craft that is being perfected in what can only be seen as blatent mass hypnosis. Snap the fuck out of it! I could only stomach a short few minutes of those two in the video before it all became an absurd clown circus. I needed to stop when the guest likened creating music to playing a video game in which absolutely nothing is being created by the person who is playing said video game. It bodes terribly for the future of art and artists if they can convince people that by using a painting by numbers virtual canvas you can be just like Van Gogh. And add insult to injury, their little product's intention to sell waking dreams is created by literally stealing actual artists work. If you want to make music then learn an instrument, work hard, and with your native passion and the capacity of your intelligence always from moment to moment continue to learn and grow like a vine's fervent ambition into reaching the sun. There is literally no other way.

 

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Fvkk that guy. Him and all his techbro buddies are uncultured swines who don't know the first thing about art and creation.

And no, sucking at something is not something to skip, it is great and necessary for your growth (not just in music).

That Suno stuff is so horrendous, I can clock it immediately. The only thing good coming out of this is that it plainly shows what sheer unadultered mediocrity sounds like (like with all AI, as dead mow cinco said, averaged stupidity).

If you too are feeling gaslighted, check the podcast Better Offline, it's a dude who discusses the AI bubble and its lore, real good stuff

 

ATTENTION SATIRE

Oh man, thank you for this video that changed my world, how could I have lived for years without this product?
AI is going crazy for many people anyway, finally new toys that nobody needs. Digital mountains of garbage..!

Signed CEO MakeMoney Artificial Stupidity (Department of Total Stupidity)

 

We're already inundated with the noise of fake autotuned and pitch corrected crap masquerading as music, AI just adds another layer of noise. But there are still real artistes out there doing incredible things. Like Ren who performs his music and makes his videos in real time. It does seem that people like him are rare but AI certainly has no utility in this kind of real performance and I hope it never will.

 

ever seen a turd talk? grab your chance and watch the vid. besides that, a computer can only reproduce what has already been and at the best make new combinations from what has been fed into the program, it's like the algorithms of all the socials, it will only confirm what you been reading/watching/listening to and the bias will keep you in the filter bubble forever. The problem these days is that people can't tell the difference between real mashed potatoes (made with potatoes, eggs and milk) and a box of instant mashed potatoes (made with water and a powdery substance) and think they're both delicious and nutricious

 

Thanks Crinklebumps for finding the talent, he'll make it big!

The most important button on the PC is the power button and the second most important button is the delete (DEL) function.

Kebu is the successor to Jean Michelle Jarre! Music without AI!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV-5d2ZbKBRCGaG3MXXfXcw

Only untalented and lazy people need AI, they are de facto players and not musicians.
The future of everyone is always a question of intelligence and humanity.