Suggestions for quickly/effectively learning music theory?

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  1. Cav Emp

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    I'm in the same position as you, OP. I've been flapping my gums for a long ass time about wanting to learn music theory and I finally started to put my money where my mouth is recently. I had some lessons a while ago, so I understand the essentials of scales and chords, but not a whole lot else.

    Check out Michael New on Youtube as well. He does some good stuff that's just beyond absolute beginner difficulty, which is appropriate for my level of musical understanding.

    Me, I've been simply playing/practicing on the Push and my guitar for about an hour a day. That helps somewhat. I brush up on scales on a regular basis. That helps a bit, but I think the most important thing is to understand that you can't really approach it on a macro scale. In my (limited) experience you have to learn little pieces of it one by one, and eventually when you have enough small pieces, things will begin to click.

    I think it also pays a lot to focus on ear training. If you're watching a tutorial that talks about a minor third and you don't know what that sounds like, or at least what the interval is, all you're learning is a bunch of stuff that symbolically points to aspects of music, but you gain little to no understanding of the actual music it's supposed to represent.
     
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    Why don't you check ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Music_theory
    You can learn everything from there - from the note names to advanced stuff that's only useful for musical analysis or composing abstract pieces useful only for scoring horror movies...
     
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    Hack Music Theory or 12 Music Theory Hacks by Ray Harmony

    The shortest book which will give you the most essential MT knowledge

    You can pay for it or get it for free if you subscribe to their site
     
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  4. cloudhopper

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    what they dont tell you is that Theory is one thing but ultimately you need a good musical ear to progress otherwise you will get stuck doing basic things.
    moving to the next level takes time an dedication, you must train your ear to recognize automatically each note, don't think that your sequencer can replace all this becuase it's not true unless all your songs sound the same and you always use the same notes or chords.

    i agree that lots of Hits are super simple and made of 2-3 notes at all but that's a choice of the composer, not the result of a lack of skills.

    if you refuse to learn the basics this is the best you can achieve :
     
  6. MMJ2017

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    it so complex so much information that you have to take a college course on it i will give you one for free right now




















    there are 47 videos in full for free, this i promise is the quickest way to learn music theory sir.
     
  7. Backtired

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    that track was a massive hit, same as don't laugh by wink which is equally simple.
    simple/fun doesn't mean bad, come on we should all know this by now
     
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    Guys, I took guitar lessons several years ago, but after one year my teacher died (heart attack). And now I am trying to compose a little and work with sequencers, but feeling like I need to know the theory of music for better understanding. I want to get one of these but already have a synth (with no pads) and don't know if I should replace my Yamaha with one of those controllers
     
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  9. MMJ2017

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    Hello
    I'm happy to assist you from here friend.

    Which separate language would you like to do more with?

    Tonal music language ( subdominant, dominant and tonic)
    Language is based in tension and release consinance and dissonance based in a tonal center point.)

    Modal music language ( based on unity ,and vertical sound )

    Atonal language ( equality of the 12 notes , using the notes like drums )
     
  10. Gumnby

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    Yo this is sweet! Thank you


    Edit: I just realized this post is 5 years old smh:woot:
     
  11. Valnar

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    lolz old thread

    just get a book from libgen and work through it, there are no shortcuts
    there are anti-shortcuts aka time-wasters though, like most theory videos on YT
     
  12. Jo McG

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    Check out this wonderful youtube channel from a lovely American music teacher called Karen Ramirez. She has an incredible way of explaining music theory in the most simplest of terms . Wonderful for a beginner and even a seasoned musician could learn something from her :)
    https://www.youtube.com/c/KarenRamirez91200
     
  13. BaSsDuDe

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    Every University in the world has a theory fundamentals class that teaches what you are asking for with degree qualified tutors. They're generally not that expensive and you also get to ask questions with a human present. If any video is not a fully qualified and certified expert then it's not certified. If you found fundamentals useful, the Professors will often point you to other classes in what you also asked up to advanced ear training, solfege and more advanced theory as you get through it systematically. Qualified people won't throw you in the deep end straight away, they'll make sure you understood what came before so they know what they will pass to you next won't bamboozle you.
    It also depends on whether you want to do it that way of course. As for which is better, that or online, opinions will always vary.
    If you can get one-on-one fundamentals training with someone who is qualified that is even better and faster. It also depends if you want it for free or not.
    You get what you pay for.
     
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    Learn the fundamentals of Harmony:
    Intervals
    Chord construction, all types of triads, four part harmony, arpeggios etc
    Later, Scale construction

    Learn basic tools:
    Chords, types and shapes, inversions,
    first CAGED, then Barre chords, then get a sheet of 7th chords so you can apply them to jazz standards and the like..
    5 Pentatonic Scales + blues note (feat. major and minor pentatonic blues scales)
    7 Modes of the Major Scale

    Know it inside out,
    Practice and apply it in all possible ways/contexts etc..

    Then:
    Keep refining your Chords skills and knowledge..

    Later get into:
    Melodic and Harmonic Minor modes
    Diminished Scales and Wholetone/Hexatonic scale

    Get into:
    All possible music styles:
    Bluess, Jazz and Fusion (Bossanova, Latin, Funk, Rock), Funk, Reggae, Rock, Metal, Folk, World, Manouche, Balkan, Flamenco..

    In any case just "learn, think, practice, sleep" ad infinitum..

    If you learn everything in this list, and still don't understand a thing,
    you're not doing it right.. lol

    IOW make sure you get a complete understanding of every little part and concept before you move to the next,
    there's not one single way of thinkin about harmony, but eventually you will form your own..
    maybe you could be more of a note spelling guy, or a tetra-chords guy, or an intervals type guy, etc

    All approaches are valid as long as you know and follow the rules,
    some could be more practical or easy to interiorize than other tho,
    in that sense I recommend going with Intervals.

    And that's pretty much it, on a Basic/generic level..
    beyond that it's more of a personal journey which will depend on whats your goals/motivations and interests,
    which instruments you play, the music styles you prefer, and so on and forth..
     
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