Steinway Model D Sample Library Comparison

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by Popotan, Aug 9, 2018.

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Which is your favorite Steinway sample library?

  1. 8Dio - 1969 Legacy Piano

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  2. 8Dio - Legacy 1928 Steinway Scoring Piano

    16.7%
  3. Acousticsamples - Academic Grand

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  4. Best Service - Galaxy II Steinway

    5.6%
  5. Best Service - Galaxy Vintage D

    16.7%
  6. Chocolate Audio - The 88 Series - Model D Grand

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  7. Cinesamples - Piano in Blue

    11.1%
  8. e-instruments - Session Keys Grand S

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  9. Imperfect Samples - Steinway Walnut Concert Grand

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  10. Native Instruments - New York Concert Grand

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  11. Native Instruments - The Grandeur

    5.6%
  12. Orchestral Tools - The Orchestral Grands

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  13. SampleTekk - Black Grand MkII

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  14. SonicCouture - The Hammersmith Pro

    27.8%
  15. Spitfire Audio - Hans Zimmer Piano

    16.7%
  16. Spitfire Audio - Orchestral Grand Piano

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  17. Synthogy - Ivory - German D

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  18. Toontrack - EZkeys - Grand Piano

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  19. XLN Audio - Addictive Keys - Studio Grand

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  1. Popotan

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    I was going through my collection of piano sample libraries to find the right piano sound for a project I was working on the other day and realized I have way too many to individually demo each time I want to find a particular sound. Thus I decided to record a small snippet of a midi file through each of the libraries so I can just listen to those recordings instead of loading up all the patches. Hopefully this helps some of you get a good idea of what the various sample libraries out there sound like playing the same material.

    When I think of piano sounds, putting aside the matters of microphone placement and where the instrument was recorded, there are really two distinct types of sound I typically imagine. These are the smooth and mellow sound that I feel encapsulates the Steinway Model D piano, and the harsher bright percussive sound that one associates with a Yamaha C7. This is why most sample library producers sample one of these two pianos. Most other grand pianos are just a slight variation of one of those two IMHO.

    That being said for this thread I chose to demo 19 different companies take on the Steinway Model D. The different sample libraries are listed in the poll. I also made a demo for each of the microphone perspectives. To my surprise the sound of these libraries ranged from quite bright and harsh (like one would expect from a Yamaha C7) all the way to the smooth and mellow sound one would expect from a Steinway.

    I did try to upload all of these to SoundCloud so you all wouldn't need to download anything however for some reason they were flagged for a copyright violation and I didn't want to re-record everything or try to get them restored. I uploaded a zip file to mega and 4shared which should provide fast download speeds though.

    I have 12 Yamaha C7 libraries that I may create a similar thread for in the future if I can ever find the motivation.

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    https://www.4shared.com/get/irSxWQbCgm/Steinway.html
     
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    Thank you very much for taking the time to record these audio examples!!
    It's a great help when looking for a specific piano sound.
    I didn't vote because I have five go-to pianos: Galaxy Vintage D, 8Dio 1969, Hammersmith, Keyscape Yamaha Grand, Braunschweig Upright.

    Would you mind uploading the MIDI file as well?
    Thanx...
     
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  6. Popotan

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    @RealBananas lol that is an interesting piano sound, one that I could actually find myself using. :rofl:

    @fiction Sorry I didn't think of keeping the midi file after I recorded these. I guess that would have been helpful if someone had a sample library I don't.

    I am a bit surprised so many people seem to like The Hammersmith Pro. I just can't get myself to appreciate the harsh sound of their samples. I guess when you have a 50gb piano you almost have to assume it sounds good to justify the hard drive space.
     
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  7. DoubleTake

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    That is what makes a "go-to" instrument.
    I always go to it, but never use it in the end.... :winker:
     
  8. fiction

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    Yes, I would have compared to the libraries not listed here.

    The Hammersmith sounds bright but I don't consider it "harsh". For some instrumentations it's a good fit, although a bit of tonal tweaking, including EQ, goes with it.
    I don't believe that there's one "best" piano library, at least not for everyone and for every musical style.
     
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    Piece of cake, it's just zillion-triple-tracked... like Deftones guitars...:rofl:
     
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