Steinberg just posted this.....

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  1. T2000

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    'What when the internet is down?'

    It gives a month,no?
     
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  2. Hennessey

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    I agree with that!
    I am not Pro Tools user or to say lately fan of it because I cant get along with it...
    Just to say that the Pro Tools was the only DAW ever I have bought in RETAIL store, how much I like it at the time to have it and learn it.
    Learning curve was to hard for me, because I have already made a transition to Cubase, but I had a desire to get industry standard, but with no luck....
    Now you can't see me hating PT it as much as I can because it was not good for me...
    Some peoples garbage is other peoples opportunity!

    Nothing more, nothing less!
    But again PRO Tools is industry standard like Cubase and Nuendo are. period.
    After all, everything is a matter of taste and personal liking.

    STOP REAPER TEROR ON AUDIOSEX PLEASE !
     
  3. Hennessey

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    If a read it correctly and got it right, if you are offline, before that one month pass, for example at 25th day or so, you will get notification inside application itself, that you should verify your license in couple of days.
    In other words, you will need to reconnect your PC, to obtain new license, and I think that is done in background.
    If month passes and you have not done that, then an app stops working, and you will need to authenticate your license, again with your Steinberg credentials.
    If you are online whole time or fraction of time during the month, all that will be done automatically, I guess?

    So to cut it short, INTERNET IS A MUST and no extra month included after expiration, program stops working!
     
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  5. timer

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    While I neither particularly like the dongle nor online auth nonsense:
    If musicians travel thousands of miles to record at your place, IMO it's your responsibility to provide a backup DAW to record with. Let it be Reaper, Logic, if you are on a Mac, Bitwig or even your old cubase version running on a dongle. I would even rent a hardware recorder in this case (walking to the shop, because, as you said, internet is down).

    That said, I like the idea to treat old hardware-software combinations like instruments, never updating them or connecting them them to the net, but using MIDI, old audio interfaces and maybe a hardware controller to turn your universal notebook into a specialised synth or reverb.

    But in reality I even don't do that, because working itb with total recall is such a time saver and hardware takes a lot of space...
    I'm waiting for the day when our DAWs and fancy plugins will be integrated into every OS as a standard and we can start to work on our music again instead of configuring our recording systems. Some nerdyness would be lost but there's a lot of creative time to be won.
     
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    For some reason I took to PT like a duck to water, the learning curve wasn't as bad as Reaper in my opinion, I can also use Cubase, it's similar to PT in a lot of ways, I was stoked to see the R2R PT crack, even though it's missing a few features that I never really used anyway, hope they do release a proper crack in the future though, but for now, I'm still making music......
     
  7. MassesAreAsses

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    AUDIOS STEINBERG
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  8. Sinus Well

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    Nope, sry man, but...
    The Reaper is unstoppable!
     
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  9. BaSsDuDe

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    Here is the Steinberg spool.
    https://www.steinberg.net/licensing/

    Some people may want to read the full EULA when it comes into force before clicking 'I agree' when licensing starts with Dorico - this screenshot below is in the above. It's a good idea to know exactly what you are giving anyone permission to do. If people think the EULA won't change, that may not be a good assumption to make. Painful to read perhaps, but at least you'll know next year when they make the fineprint available.
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  10. knobtwister

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    It is a move to the "rental" business model instead of ownership. (in the future you will own nothing and be happy) Without a monthly check-in, (or maybe a year) the software stops working unless you check in with Big Brother. This is only a hop, skip, and jump to monthly/yearly "rental" plans that other software vendors are implementing (ie Adobe). Imagine if you buy a car, and it would stop running unless you contacted your dealer every month. Or imagine you buy a power drill, and it stops working unless you have it call home every month. This is becoming outrageous. They are trying to do away with perpetual licensing and moving to a lease approach. These software vendors must be looking at Adobe stock price and salivating. It will further push legitimate users to piracy.
     
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  11. Domo

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    time will tell..
     
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  12. Domo

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    yes sure...
     
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  13. hackerz4life

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    It seems the world is working on pleasing the naive and dumb first and smart second.
    For many this will simply mean no more cubase updates and working with the previous versions as staying with the subscription model is a very risky move.
    I think this will hurt them financially and also keep many potential new users away. And it will hurt them even more when it gets cracked.
     
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  16. Lois Lane

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    Extrapolating a bit here, (and probably could use its own thread) at least for the USA and hopefully not by logical extension at some point in the near to mid future the rest of the world, subscription schemes that are examples of ways to do away with ownership and shift the paradigm towards reliance on corporations (which have literally only their shareholders bank accounts to both satisfy and justify their destructive behaviors) are being integrated into "the system" and are being eased in to becoming the norm. Monoliths like Blackrock are taking advantage of the current monetary policy of throwing basically free money at already powerful entities and in this case buying homes and at many times above market price to control areas of population and to strip away individual's benefits towards personal wealth accumulationand and financial growth. We have seen a mighty shift of money move upwards to a smaller and smaller percentage of individuals over the past 50 years and the trend seems to not be abating the upward flow as the phenomenais not market driven but rather by succeeding administrations by way of overt policy. The big box has killed the Mom and Pop with horrible outcomes of low wage jobs and unfulfilling lives as part of the cog and being treated like pissants in the literal scheme of things.The squeeze is on to wring dry the masses of any power or sway in deciding the distribution of recources, and this is obvious and is planned for the benefit of those positioned at the apex of the pyramid . As humans are replaced by robots there will be less opportunity for individual humans to extract a living from the available jobs which will be significantly in short supply, and as as of this writing no alternate opportunities are on the horizon for the mass of average citizens to be trained for absolutely anything else once the work gas dried up. In a few years automated trucking will be coming in full force in use of large shipping concerns such as Amazon with others surely to follow. Factories are being fully automated and even those fast food companies that we all know are toying with the idea of relying less on air breathers and more on the animatronic for cooking, serving and service in general.

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    Thanks @Lois Lane, for your detailed text and I want to add the following: Bill Gates already mentioned the robot tax. In conversation is also a basic income for everyone. Only citizens who have enough money can buy products. This means that an impoverished population will only be able to borrow or rent the things they need. Readable in the book by Klaus Schwab - The great reset. If you want to know how the elites imagine the future and what they want to change, please go to this website www.weforum.org
     
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    I've gotta say, he's right on this. Also, comments like "anyways Cubase is trash", "what is Steinberg" don't help. I understand the uneasiness but let's not go radical-bananas.
     
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  20. raps

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    A LETTER TO STEINBERG

    I hereby inform Steinberg that when this process is put into effect and you request my license there won't be one as I would have sold it and started to use a different DAW that does not require this bullsh*t.

    I would say good luck to you but I wouldn't mean a single word.

    Regards.
     
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