Spire?? Different sound behaviour?? Help?

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  1. globalpeace

    globalpeace Noisemaker

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    I've used Spire's saw on both the daw and bounced it to 24bit wav (44100) and the results makes me insane.

    Tried Phase cancellation, it didn't cancel each other and waveforms are 100% different.
     

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  3. globalpeace

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    Different midi files -
     

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  4. junh1024

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    Try playing with the alias-free and HQ options in FL. I wouldn't worry about it if it's not a workflow-breaking problem. Comparing both versions with quikquak mashtactic in the middle should give a straight line if the content is the same but phase is different.
     
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    detune is done randomly(you also have the detune width pretty wide, thats why its different. try the same with a clean saw and 1 voice and 1OSC, you will see it is the same.
     
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    Both the spire has 1 voice, so neither the detune nor the wide will work. But it's so strange. and sorry for the double post
     
  7. Grada

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    Hi, oscilator needs to be retrigered (starts everytime from same sample position) on some synths you have retrig button or fix position etc. To make long story short this is what you need to do:
    Set Phase button to 500 (12 clock) and deactivate draft button. Also be sure that unision is off. Best is to start with init preset under the menu.

    Cheers
     
  8. mono

    mono Audiosexual

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    Try and bounce down the same presets ,two times or two copys in studion one and fl studio
    you will be lucky to get them to match up even from the same daw
    osc have there way of doing things ,wav files will work ok but plugins is not the same,
    the defalt plugin settings would be your best chance but you could have to run it 1000's of times
    befor you got two the same wav files from it,
    like Grada said oscilator needs to be retrigered as the same time what i could never make happen
    best of luck :wink:
     
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    thats what i mean, when you do the same in sylenth1 without the retrig on, you get the same results.
     
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    Yeah, Finally it worked, Thank Artic, momo, Grada. The only thing was to match the same volume to compensate the volume equal to LGP-X.
     
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