Soundgym worth it? Ear Training for engineers

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  1. Valnar

    Valnar Producer

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    Hey,
    I want to improve my engineering skills
    I am currently gathering all kinds of exercises and info's on that topic and I've stumbled upon a website that looks professional and systematic, its called Soundgym, have you guys tested the pro membership, is it worth it?
    I want to make my own training routine before trying paid stuff but I'm kind of clueless on how to start

    You know what, I just got an idea
    I should program a DAW that is for engineering ear training only, so you can practice with your favorite plugins and parameter randomisation, track selection etc. is all handled by the DAW
    I got this idea by thinking of the fact that the line between sound design and mixing can be blurry often times so you should practice with the tools that you will later use in actual sessions

    Well whatever, that was pretty off-topic given that I am not a programmer, do you guys have any alternatives? Just post a bunch of websites, plugins and book recommendations that you think will help me (and others who are interested), I will look through them and start making my daily routine
    Thanks =)

    In case anyone is interested, here is (the digital part of) my musician/composer ear training routine:
    https://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-interval
    https://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-keyboard
    https://www.teoria.com/en/exercises/cne.php
    https://www.teoria.com/en/exercises/c3e.php
    https://www.teoria.com/en/exercises/cp.php
    https://www.teoria.com/en/exercises/ip.php
    https://www.teoria.com/en/exercises/ip.php

     
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  3. Freetobestolen

    Freetobestolen Newbie

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    I've got to practice. I am too slow and mistaken beyond the usual. Thanks btw.

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  4. BEAT16

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    The 8 best ear training apps for musicians and sound engineers

    1. Tenuto https://www.musictheory.net/products/tenuto
    2. Teoria https://www.teoria.com
    3. Good-Ear.com https://www.good-ear.com
    4. EarMaster https://www.earmaster.com
    5. Quiztones https://theproaudiofiles.com/quiztones/
    6. Soundgym https://www.soundgym.co
    7. earPlugins http://www.earplugins.eu
    8. TrainYourEars https://www.trainyourears.com

    Ear training suggestions? http://indierecordingdepot.com/t/ear-training-suggestions/4398

    Tune is an ear training plug-in - not with chords and intervals, but with equalizer frequency bands. www.earplugins.eu
     
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  5. musicmaker777

    musicmaker777 Newbie

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    Soundgym is a ridiculous expensive subscription in my opinion. I tried it and although it has some good training purposes, it's overpriced. I own "train your ears" that i got from sound engineering school. It has similar content and it's not bound by any subscription model.
     
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    PerfectEar on android/iOS, its free when you want to stick with the normal exxercises, custom exercises cost you a bit.
     
  7. Valnar

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    pro tip: replace unison and octave with minor 9th

    I just deleted that app lol they charge you if you want to practice anything but fifths and octaves, honestly I've now installed a piano app because I think it gives you the least headaches with all those freemium apps

    ffs there is no macOS version of it :/

    train your ears looks quite interesting despite being only EQ training because of the Bob Katz exercise :thumbsup:


    https://www.webtet.net/apcl/#/ Is what I have discovered today, you can even get the pdf of the book for free on libgen! Thank you all I got what I wanted <3
     
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    they dont! last time i checked all exercises were free, are you sure we are talking about the same app?
    i mean this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evilduck.musiciankit
    (i have not updated in ages, maybe they have changed?)
    they charge you for user created exercises, i cant test since i bought the christmas pack for 3€ along with the premium piano sound, but i hardly use the user created exercise options, since the included exercise already have everything.

    the money came from google opinions.

    ohh i thought you wanted a normal ear trainer.
     
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    aurelia i had a cracked around 2006? it was quite good, but since then no newer version has leaked.
    meludia sounds interesting, but then again perfect ear just does it for me right now. And if i want i can still sit down on my keyboard.
     
  11. timer

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    Do you want to train your ear from a musician's or from an engineer's perspective.
    As a musician you would listen for interval, chords, rhythm. As an engineer for frequencies, dynamics, room and so on.

    For the second perspective check
    https://webtet.net/apcl/#/

    Edit: Just read #6, seeing that you've fond it already.
     
  12. Valnar

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    Ah, okay, I have just reinstalled it and you are half right, a lot of the exercises are for free but some of them need premium (rhythm and sight singing exercises for example are heavily limited), I guess that's something I can work with :)

    yeah but doesn't matter i am always open to new suggestions of any kind
     
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