SoundCloud changes policies to allow AI training on user content

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  1. PulseWave

    PulseWave Kapellmeister

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    They're bordering on illegal. Maybe someone with a few million to spare will sue them. As you know, big, financially powerful law firms always back the big guys. They usually bombard you with expert opinions and opinions and drag out the process until the plaintiff goes bankrupt. I think your decision is consistent. I'll stay here for now; maybe I'll rediscover my songs somewhere else.
     
  2. Garamondo Furbish

    Garamondo Furbish Audiosexual

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    the businesses operate 24/7, enforcement occurs occasionally, do you see how a problem can accrue.
    literally all enforcement does is teach the corporations, where the guardrails are and how to avoid detection as they actively climb over them.

    additionally corporations often have contracts with elements of governments such as 3 letter agencies to supply them with tools and data from their subscribers. AT&T provides internet backbone access directly to the NSA in buildings in San Fran, NYC and likely many other points as has been documented in lawsuits.

    Governments and their agencies are more likely to turn a blind eye or actual encourage vacuuming up user data to provide them with yet more data. Have no faith in institutions.


     
  3. PulseWave

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    The internet cannot be completely controlled, only regulated.

    American jurisdiction is completely different from Asian jurisdictions, etc.! Of course, the big corporations rule because they alone create jobs and thus money and thus also tax revenue. Many politicians are lobbyists in the service of corporations.

    It's no different in the EU. The secret services also have a strong interest in acquiring or even stealing other people's secrets and technologies. That's the way the world is. The problem will be enormous, and whether it can all be regulated and legally resolved is more than doubtful.

    The strong will continue to crush the weak. Some will be sued, but, as with crime, it will always only be the tip of the iceberg.
     
  4. ELJUNTADERO2022

    ELJUNTADERO2022 Producer

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    Relationship between SoundCloud and Splice.

    First thing to get on mind.
    In March 2024, SoundCloud acquired Splice, a popular platform for samples, loops and tools for music producers. This purchase was part of a strategy to better integrate music creation tools with the distribution and discovery offered by SoundCloud.

    The second:

    What is the goal of this union?
    Create a more closed ecosystem where artists produce, upload and promote their music using tools within the same group.
    Use data and content from both platforms (samples + full songs) to develop AI-powered products.
    Empower AI models that can generate music, help produce it, or analyze it.
    What about using your songs to train AI?
    This initiative is likely to come from SoundCloud's steering group following the acquisition of Splice. Together, the two companies have:
    Access to millions of samples (Splice).
    Access to millions of songs and creators (SoundCloud).
    This is perfect ground for training music generative AI models, both to help creators and for future commercial products.
    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

    I see that little by little this whole subject is being monopolized... as always, all the power falls on one person who ends up being just a few...
     
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  5. Xupito

    Xupito Audiosexual

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    Oh my! No way! I have to immediately take my masterpiece of a lifetime outta there

    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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