Sonible Smart EQ3 Group function not working

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  1. alwin1

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    Anyone has this issue too or was able to solve this? I use FL Studio
     
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  3. No Avenger

    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Have you read the regarding posts at AZ? IIRC, it's not an FL but a coding problem. Seems this option just doesn't work off-line (if that is what you're talking about).
     
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    I got it working and it seems to require internal UDP. I can only say that so far it does not do any illicit ET call home stuff without the user's knowledge. however, it does require some kind of connection because it is sending and receiving packets and I think it might well be SNMP it is using. I think there are a few specialists on here who may be able to say exactly what it is, but if it's snmp it's fairly harmless internally.

    Here is a screenshot of a test I did less than 5 minutes ago - working
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    @alwin1 - Do a quick check in your services and see if SNMP is running. Close Fruity loops and turn it on if it is not. If it is not that then that is out of my skill scope, but I do know it needs internal UDP running. if that does not work, sorry I cannot help much more that.

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    P.S - Quick path to services = Goto Run menu and type: services.msc
     
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  5. nmkeraj

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    Hmm, I don't have such service in my Windows 10

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    WIn 10 is missing this service. I have found this to install and start it.
    1. Open Powershell with Administrator credentials
    2. issue the following commands
    3. Get-WindowsCapability -Online -Name "SNMP*" --> Will show Not Present
    4. Add-WindowsCapability -Online -Name "SNMP.Client~~~~0.0.1.0"
    5. Get-WindowsCapability -Online -Name "SNMP*"
    6. Get-WindowsCapability -Online -Name "SNMP*" --> Will show Installed
    Now I can see the service is running but the grouping of smart EQ3 still is not working.
     
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  6. BaSsDuDe

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    It's there you may need to install it as it sounds like it is not.
    Every Operating system in existence has it. This is how some UPS's monitor so I would be amazed if it is excluded.. It's also how the packet measurements are done by many programs...Go to Programs and features in your control panel. Click on "Turn Windows features on or off"

    It's in there. In the list of Windows features, select Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) and the WMI SNMP Provider (provides access to the SNMP information via the Windows Management Instrumentation interfaces), and click OK. It should install. If it wants you to reboot, do it. Then try again making sure it's turned on and on automatic start in the services.

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    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    Is the WMI provider installed and running? The SNMP service can be installed but without it the SNMP does not do much.
    Please let me know because anything past this is out of my skillset and you may need to ask someone who has drilled down into the packets to see what it is doing in communication. This seems the most logical. Also, do you have the external network or your network card disabled? As in Internet?
    While that seems like a dumb question, I apologise, but I have to ask. You can always block any inbound or outbound connection in your firewall if you are super-cautious.
     
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    It should show up in your windows features if installed. Check if the subdirectory (piccy below) is also installed.
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    I just read Microsoft is planning to remove it because they consider it a security risk. Interesting. I hope they let every application manufacturer that relies on it know or it will be ugly.
    Here's a link. It seems you have a more recent upgrade to me I think and that's why the difference. This might be more useful than I am. It provides alternatives.

    here's the article.

    I HOPE this helps you :)

    https://theitbros.com/snmp-service-on-windows-10/
     
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    @nmkeraj - do you have another DAW installed? It might be worth trying it in that as a test too to save installing things you may not need to and see if it does the same thing. If it does not, then it may possibly be a bug with specific DAW's that Sonible has not sorted. After all, it is only version 1.
    ALSO - are you loading the vst3 or 2? I noticed the vst3 is really buggy.
     
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    Unfortunate pictures :)
    PS. I have got just Ableton Live 10
     

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    I have checked Vst2 and Vst3 with the same failure, unfortunately.
    They don't see each other and group options are greyed. I can only create a group (with the same name) for every instance separately.
     
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    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    have you tried in a different DAW out of interest?
     
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    I will try FL Studio later on
     
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    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    I tried it in Ableton 11 for you. Group opens, works then for me scanning four as the test, then it hangs. That could be my lack of Ableton knowledge but it happened twice with different files that were smaller the second time.
    Ask @No Avenger if he has time to test it in Reaper which you can get from the sister site. He is a Reaper Wiz.
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for the compliment but I've no clue about these S&M-WM thingymabob stuff [​IMG], so I'll hardly test it.
     
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    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    Easy non-detailed test - You insert up to 6 audio files. Add SmartEQ3 to each plugin insert. Click on group. Addnew comes up, give it a name.
    drag and drop each instance into levels there are three. level 1 is the audio you want as a priority then 2 then 3 (Order of frequency priority.

    Press play and then the yellow button at the top. It will analyse al lfiles that are playing you have inserted and do an 'auto-eq".
    If it works that's all you need to do and say. Delete it after if it's not your thing.
    It has uses and in some things is accurate.

    S&M ???? :rofl:
     
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    That part didn't work.
    Upper part track 1 with kick, group name 'my test', 'add instance' -> 'no instances found'.
    Lower part track 2 with bass, 'add to group' is empty.
     
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    Same here. Ableton, Reaper. Also did not found S&M service on 2 (different) machines. I have S&M Trap tho. How cool is that, ha? :disco:
    I don't even do trap, mostly.. :rofl:
     
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