Something Important for Beginners

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by james123, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. james123

    james123 Newbie

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    Hey Producers

    I Wanna know that Why we use transient shaping...and where to use this,,,and in House Music or Electronic Music which was the important plugins we can use in mix...
    Still I Know Little about Compression and EQ. Firstly i think that EQ and compression is enough for good mix...but now i am realising that there is something other things is important with com and eq for good sounding mix...I am beginner, so i have to work hard n hard i know..any help would be appreciated....

    Thanks-
     
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  3. Studio 555

    Studio 555 Producer

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    @ James Producer,

    About your Request from a 'Producer' (aka 'James') ! :rofl: to other Producers here...

    As its name implies, a 'Transient Shaper' shape the 'Transients' ('Attack') of any Audio Material processed through it...
    You can guess that it will be more useful on 'Percussive' Sounds, Fast Sounds (with Fast Attack),... rather than on other kind of Sounds (e.g. Pads,... ).

    Among the most famous and commonly 'Transient Shapers' Plugins used, you can find the following :

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    Schaack Audio Transient Shaper 2

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    Voxengo Transgainer

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    Waves Trans-X

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    Melda Production MMultiband Transient



    The following Video can also certainly be of great interest for you to understand how to use 'Transient Shaping' :

    Understanding and using Transient Shapers


    To be really short, 'Compression' in its primary use, serves to reduce the more loud parts of any Audio Material and to increase the more quiet parts of that same Audio Material.
    I write in its primary use, because nowadays, a lot of Audio & Sound Engineers, Musicians, Producers,... use 'Compression' for any kind of purpose, including in very creative ways sometimes (e.g. 'Parallel Compression', 'Side-Chain Compression',... ).

    To be short yet, 'EQing' always in its primary use, serves to attenuate (an unwanted) or increase (a desired) range of Frequencies along an Audio Material specific Spectrum.
    If you feel (hear !) that your Audio Material contains, say, too much Basses for your taste, you guess that you must to look to the 'Low Frequencies' of your 'EQ' to attenuate these,...


    As it's well known (among Professionals) that 'Mixing', 'Mastering',... is an ART ! *yes* You can guess that it goes far more than just loading a 'Compressor' and a 'EQ', for instance...

    The Material/Processors used (either 'Hardware Units', or 'Soft Plugins') is also relevant... You can't really compare some 'simple' Plugins with, for instance, some 'Hardware Units' that cost, in some cases, thousand of $, as these that can be found in some 'Professional Recording Studios' worldwide... *no*



    P.S: A last statement often said by some 'Professional Audio & Sound Engineers' in the UK :

    'SISO' = 'Shit In', 'Shit Out'

    and which means, that in some sense, if you input 'poor' Audio Material, don't expect to get some kind of 'miracles' at the output... *yes*
     
  4. fraifikmushi

    fraifikmushi Guest

    You are spot on with that remark.
    Transient shaping is really waaaaaay down there on the priority list of things to learn as beginner.

    Transient shapers influence the very first oscilation of a sound. The first impact of a drum, and so on. As a beginner, less is more. Learn how to do a solid mix using no compression. Learn how and what to eq properly. Don't go into mastering (master is in this word for a reason).
    Stick to creating awesome music or cool sounds. One step at a time, don't rush it.
     
  5. james123

    james123 Newbie

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    Can I Use Transient Shaping on bass ?
     
  6. Studio 555

    Studio 555 Producer

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    @ James Producer,

    Why not ? 'Experiment' is the Key... *yes* :wink:
     
  7. relexted

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    I often use a transient shaper on a kickdrum, only when compression does not work.
    Hihats can benefit from it as well. Specially when you use a loop.
    It often works on anything you think the transient isn't exactly right.
    Be careful with pushing the attack.
     
  8. Mykal

    Mykal AudioP2P

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    meh
     
  9. m2314

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    I don't think "properly" is the right term for any process in audio... proper implies there is a certain way in which EQ should be used, but there is no hard and fast rule for usage of any tool in audio, and to suggest that would be detrimental to any one just starting out
     
  10. fraifikmushi

    fraifikmushi Guest

    What I wanted to emphasize was to learn the basics first.
    And yes, there are processes in the studio that can and have to be done properly. If you want to get a signal in and out of a large recording console it's pretty ovious that you can do things properly or improperly. Or take gain staging.
    As a beginner, it is crucial to reduce complexity. Fishing in murky waters is demotivating and frustrating, and I think that is what is detrimental.
     
  11. Thankful

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    Well then, by definition, there must be a lot of kaka 'going in' these days, otherwise why would there exist so many filters to correct problems! :grooves:
     
  12. zero-frag

    zero-frag Producer

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    I used a transient shaper on an electric guitar once. I was going for a post apocalyptic ambient kind of guitar and the guitar had an attack that was a bit too strong to my taste, a bit of transient shaper fixed the problem. Otherwise I usually use them on kicks.
     
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