[SOLVED] Focusrite Liquid Mix working on Windows 10 x64

Sorin · Nov 12, 2020

To revive an old thread,just tried the Bunford's solution in post no.18 and it works.I'm using Windows 10 Pro 20H2 OS built 19042.630 installed on a (older) HP Z400 Workstation,firewire card w/VIA chipset and Reaper 6.15 DAW. Followed the above instructions and everything works like a charm.
One more (stupid & noobish) question,though:after the sucessful installation of the entire story,do I have to revert the "disable driver signature enforcement" as presented on pt. 5 (enable again this option?) or should I let it disabled?
Thanks and cheers!
Best,
S

Last edited: Nov 12, 2020

Fernando c · Nov 20, 2020

im trying this on a win 10 pro 64bit OS (1909) with an Asus crosshair v formula z with 32gb ram and AMD FX 8350 @4.01ghz to a SIIG pci e firewire card (Texas Instruments) that works well onto a focusrite liquid saffire 56 + Cubase 10.5.

but still cant get to work the liquid mix, so im gonna try to reinstall windows from scratch then install the gear first to see if that might help.

Bunford · Nov 30, 2020

Sorin said: ↑

To revive an old thread,just tried the Bunford's solution in post no.18 and it works.I'm using Windows 10 Pro 20H2 OS built 19042.630 installed on a (older) HP Z400 Workstation,firewire card w/VIA chipset and Reaper 6.15 DAW. Followed the above instructions and everything works like a charm.
One more (stupid & noobish) question,though:after the sucessful installation of the entire story,do I have to revert the "disable driver signature enforcement" as presented on pt. 5 (enable again this option?) or should I let it disabled?
Thanks and cheers!
Best,
S
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I have just left it disabled. Just take notice of what drivers you install in future, though for 99.99% of people it won't make a difference to leave it disabled.

All having it on does is to only allow Windows to install drivers that are properly signed and validated by Microsoft.

Fernando c · Dec 4, 2020

Bunford said: ↑

SOLUTION!!!!!!

EDIT (26/03/2017): I recently reinstalled Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, version 1607 (build 14393.969). In reinstalling Liquid Mix after the install, I personally did not need to install the legacy driver so could skip step 6 below. However, I cannot verify if this is an oddity or whether the latest Windows build means you don't need the legacy firewire driver.

I have also tested this in Studio One 3.3.4 and Ableton 9.7.1 and it works fine, so should work in the latest build of any other DAW too.

EDIT (08/04/2017): I have just updated to the latest Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, version 1703 (build 15063.13), also known as the Creators Update. This reset a few things and broke the Liquid Mix. I needed to carry out the step to disable signed drivers again, reinstall the Liquid Mix drivers and then the Liquid Mix device was detected properly instead of being under 'other devices'. I also needed to unplug the device and reconnect for the PC to pick it up properly. Once this was done, it then worked as it did previously, i.e. flawlessly and tested in Studio One 3.3.4 and Ableton 9.7.1.

EDIT (08/04/2017 - 2): I have been having issues in that the device doesn't always appear in device manager and seems to randomly drop, even without powering down the PC. Going into Device Manager, right clicking my firewire interface to update driver and change it to the Legacy driver seems to have fixed this and it is now staying connected at all times and working fine.

Here it is for anyone wanting to get one of these to work on Windows 10 with 64 bit DAWs, with full 1-to-1 control from the hardware over all plugin instances.

1. Uninstall all Liquid Mix stuff from your machine if you have installed it and unplug the hardware controller. Use something like Uninstaller Pro or Revo Uninstaller if possibly to delete registry entries etc too.

2. Go here and download the legacy firewire drivers for Windows 8.1, but don't install yet.

3. Go to Start > Settings > Update & security > Recovery > Advanced startup > Restart now

4. Now to disable the driver signature requirements. When the blue screen appears, select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup settings > Restart

5. On startup press F7 or number 7 to select the options 7) Disable driver signature enforcement. Your computer will now startup as usual, just without the driver signature enforcement feature enabled.

6. At this point, once back into your computer, install the legacy firewire drivers by double clicking the .msu file you downloaded in step 2. It will install them in C:\Program Files (x86)\1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy). Go there, into the x64_driver folder, right click on Legacy1394.inf and select install. The legacy drivers are now installed.

7. Now right click on your Start button and select device manager. Find your firewire interface under IEEE 1394 host controllers and right click and choose Update driver software. Now choose Browse my computer for driver software, then Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer and then choose 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy) and click next to replace the existing driver with the legacy version.

8. Now, go to Focusrite website here and download Liquid Mix 3.0.exe and ALL the emulation files for 44.1, 48, 88.2 and 96kHz. It's important to use all emulation to guarantee it to work faultlessly, though it may work without all of them.

9. Once downloaded, select the .exe for all Liquid Mix installers, right click, choose properties and change the compatability to Windows XP SP3 and tick to run as administrator. Then install Liquid Mix 3.0.exe, which will also install the 32 bit plugins for you.

10. Halfway through installing it will ask you to connect the device. Do so and click next to finish installer. It may sometimes require a bit of a pause to register the device before allowing you to click next. Then, once the main software is installed, install all the emulation files.

11. As in step 7, get into your device manager. Check to see if your Liquid Mix is recognised. It should show up with a white icon and some orange inside it (under Display adapters and above Human Interface Devices on mine). The drop down will show the device with a black software device symbol and question mark bubble next to it. You can ignore this and all is normal. If it has shown up like this skip to 13, if not go to 12.

12. If it hasn't showed up like this, click the drop down arrows to show devices until you find the unknown device (usually under IEEE 1394 host controllers or Software devices). Once found, right click and choose Update driver software. Now choose Browse my computer for driver software, then choose the Browse button and navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\Focusrite Liquid Mix\Driver and click ok. Click next to finish installing the device driver. It should now show up as explained in step 11.

13. Now you have it all installed and it will work as it is in Reaper by pointing to the location of the 32 it plugins in the location you selected in step 9.

14. For other 64 bit DAWs, I recommend using jBridge. Create the bridge as you usually would. Open up your 64 bit DAW of choice and load the plugin. It will now work, but not fully yet. Click on jBridge's settings and check the box that says Run in existing auxhost (per plugin only, requires plugin restart). Close the settings window, remove the loaded plugin and close your DAW. Now re-open your DAW and load the plugin. It should now let you run multiple instances without a problem.

15. That's it! Now, with everyone selling these for pennies on eBay because nobody thinks they work on Windows 10, go grab yourself an amazing sounding bargain!

FAQ:

I have tested in Reaper 5.25, Ableton 9.6.2, Cubase Pro 8.5.10, Studio One 3.3.1 and Harrison Mixbus 32C 3.6.0 and it works in all of them

I am using a Texas Instruments (TI) PCIe firewire interface card

I only have the Liquid Mix plugged into that card

I do have other firewire devices, but on a different VIA bus, being my MOTU 828Mk2 FW

I am using Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 1607 (14393.187); you can check your build by pressing Windows Key + R and then type in winver and hit enter. If you need latest build, go to Windows and download their Windows 10 Upgrade Assistant tool and update

AND

as a bonus if you read it this far, here is the real name units to put in you snapshots folder. Just unzip the attachment, open up Windows Explorer, search for %APPDATA%, which will open your roaming data folder, go down to Liquid Mix and then put the unzipped files in there. In the plugin, click on the disk icon in top right and select EQ or compressor, and choose the named unit you want (don't choose "full" as that only gives you option of default snapshot presets).
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i think im clueless trying to follow step 3,4 & 5 simply because i cant find the way to do it just right, since i'm missing his path "Start > Settings > Update & security > Recovery > Advanced startup > Restart now

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Fernando c · Dec 4, 2020

Fernando c said: ↑

i think im clueless trying to follow step 3,4 & 5 simply because i cant find the way to do it just right, since i'm missing his path "Start > Settings > Update & security > Recovery > Advanced startup > Restart now

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i only find a dead end at Advanced Startupin fact there is no Restart now thing anywere there, any help?

Bunford · Dec 12, 2020

The menu options may vary slightly depending on Windows updates and versions. Google is your friend:

https://pureinfotech.com/access-advanced-startup-options-windows-10-troubleshoot-fix-pc/

Fernando c · Dec 12, 2020

hey i just completed steps 3 & 4 but next step 5 im not sure if im doing it as should be, is there a screen or message that lets you know its done step 5 when you press F7?

Bunford said: ↑

The menu options may vary slightly depending on Windows updates and versions. Google is your friend:

https://pureinfotech.com/access-advanced-startup-options-windows-10-troubleshoot-fix-pc/
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Fernando c · Dec 15, 2020

now i got it done, the only needed thing was to change the OS
now im using winterOS 20H2 (released on october 2020) works gr8

make sure you dont have plugged the Liquid Mix when installing the OS

also there is a simple way to skip step 3,4 & 5 by going straight to this instructions
https://www.howtogeek.com/167723/ho...,Disable driver signature enforcement” option.

lo_groove · Jan 7, 2021

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! After finding this link through a powercore forum, hearing about your love for the liquidmix, and listing to some VERY impressive head to head samples vs UAD i decided to give it a go... got it up and running great on Windows 10 bootcamped on a Mac Pro could not be happier!

Zergei72 · Dec 30, 2021

Any chance to get this device working on Windows 11 x64 ; Have A VIA - Chipset, changed to 1394 OHCI Legacy Driver, as advised .
I get only one instance in REAPER v6.43, then the trouble begins ... hardware reset, etc .
What about the Liquid Mix - plugins for Pro Tools 2021 ... Worth A Shot ?

- Z -

insomnia · Feb 23, 2022

Great instructions works a charm thanks

Last edited: Feb 23, 2022

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