Lets play guess the drum machine/s.

The C Hat sounds like an 808. I ran it through a Lexicon PSP 42 plugin and got satisfactory results.

The Kick sounds like a 707 to me with reverb of some sort on the mids. Not sure though.

The Snare is hard for me to hear because of everything else going on but I'm thinking it's also from a 707.

Some gear that they had that may have been used on Bites.


prophet
SS30
Arp ProSoloist
OBXA and two OB1
pro 1
source
TR808
CR78
syncussion
SIMMONS SDSV
DX7
TR909
Lexicon PCM 41
multi moog
minimoog

As you can see, no 707 on the list but the machine was produced in 1985, when Bites came out. What do you think?

 

Still one of my fav bands

Also
Skinny Puppy ‎– Rabies
Another classic

 

remember Dwayne Göttel..........
Thank you for all Dwayne
I love SP since decades

 

vocoders on Worlock's chorus, always had me like....

 

Well, don't forget they had multiple samplers, so... just because a drum machine isn't on a (not necessarily exhaustive or definitive) gear list doesn't really mean they didn't use a sample of <xyz> at any given point.

 

Good thread here :

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/ele...ion/90010-skinny-puppy-sounds-production.html

 

@bluerover That's where I got the list from.

@Rasputin Sure, I'm just trying to figure out what drum sounds they used for this song in particular and seeing as the Roland TR-707 came out the same year the album did I'm questioning myself as to whether or not they did use (my guess) a 707 for the kick and snare.

 

"Well, a lot of the earliest skinny puppy stuff was me playing my prophet while kevin fooled around with effects, or that he would take home and work on with the portastudio, so I don't recognize a lot of it, plus lots of it was just scraps of things. As far as released, Meat Flavor (full version on the from the vault series) and To a baser nature on BF2. both of these I used prophet. (as well, Ed shaw, our guitar player at that time, worked at mushroom as assistant to fairlight guy Jean Piche, so ed added some fairlight (as "bob sled") to a few tracks during 85)( I am "O.N.B."--that's ogs nogs bogs--kevin was really into nicknames-- in the thankyous on bites, and "and associates" is the rest of IIV)

It's not just bites that uses IIV gear, but the bed tracks for bites were recorded on 4 track (teac 3440) at our rehearsal studio. at that time my gear was the prophet, ss30 and arp prosoloist. glen's gear was the obxa and two ob1, gary had a pro 1 and the source and we also had the tr808, cr78, syncussion and simmons sdsv. as well, ogre had a dx7 and a tr909 and maybe a pro 1, and a lexicon pcm 41, and bill or kevin had a multi moog and maybe later a minimoog as well. We ran all the keyboards and electronic percussion through a Malcom Hill 24/8 mixer, which was our live monitor mixer (into 6 mixer), to the four track . The guys just used whaterever was set up. I hear a lot of prophet and pro 1 and source on bites. I occasionally helped set up sounds on the multi or mini moog as well as showing them how to use effects. the four track recordings were transferred to 16 track at mushroom where vocals, loops and more overdubs were done."

-joe vizvary

a lot of potential variables in there, however...
heres the 707 kick:

and the syncussion:

..could swear I used to get the same kick shape out of a tweeked envelope on the jd800 good luck!

 

I'm thinking the Snare is a 909 now. hahaha

 

You could hop on Facebook and follow cEvin Key, and ask him directly.

 

I'm always tempted to ask him gear related questions when he makes a rare appearance in the FB SP group and posts about cats and whatnot.

Anyways, I'm getting closer to what I want with the 707 Kick, 909 snare combo. That 909 snare can sometimes sound like a 707 snare, depending on what you do with either and the processing of course.

 

To me, this song has a digital vibe to it. Doesn't sound analog to me. Doesn't sound Pearl SY-1 Syncussion.

Even if it's not TR-707, seems pretty ballpark to me. I don't think it's SCI Drumtraks either as Drumtraks sounds less defined and more beefy and aliased. Doesn't seem like Yamaha RX-11.

 

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Here it is after some DeVerberate.

 

This is such a great question and so hard to definitively figure out. The kick seems really clicky and defined like a high pitched Linn kick.

 

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The high hats are partially stochastic - Elektron Analog RYTM.

 

I shall say one thing: it's not what you use, but how you use it.

Also, past is past. It's there so you can learn something from it and improve upon it. Keep improving! great thread!

Love Skinny Puppy. And FLA, and Clock DVA. The great[est] Vancouver industrial electronic scene. Nowadays we have Hocico and the likes... not really any improvement, it's a downright downgrade. That's why I'm saying people should improve, not just copy it. Make some fucking noise, guys! Filter it, tweak it, fuck it in the arse if need be, but make something that sounds innovative or at least on par with the old stuff!

 

That thing looks bad ass for sure, but I have some doubts they used it in this particular song.

 

It's proving to be a pain.