Scheps Omni Channel from Waves

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  1. quadcore64

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    Finally a useful plugin from Waves. Downloaded out of curiousity. Was I ever surprised.
    Works wel on everything so far. Gives well recorded tracks that finished touch with ease.

    I was trying so hard to stay away from Waves. They got me on this one.

    Let's face it. Waves really only has a handfull of bundles that actually stand out.

    Edit: My view is that of someone who also works with hardware. Thus plugins for me must perform past the norm of those who only work in the box.
     
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    I found everything I have used from Waves useful :bleh:
     
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    HOw is it's hit on CPU?
    Can several instances be used at the same time in live recording?
     
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    This kinda question me too..after all its a channel strip and you'd want to put it on ever channel.. there are still people running on i5 and I am thinking how will it handle that :dunno:
     
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    It runs 0.9 % CPU with all modules enabled here
     
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    i was not interested in the last few plugins waves made. This however looks really interesting and promising.
     
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    To be honestt, these kind of answers only make sense when referencing the CPU model, its speed, the RAM and its speed as well as your host and it's latency setting and the sample rate you are using.

    Besides that, I saw the demonstration video yesterday and it sounded and looked useful. But then I realized, that I have something like that already – It's called Analog Studio Rack from Nomad Factory (programmed by Dimitry Sches, btw) ;)
     
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    I've used Waves stuff since forever like the Sony Oxford plugins.
    I do not buy all things they release though, So a demo will be what I'll do at some point.
    Channel strip wise I have many options but the one's I reach for the most are as follows:
    1. Metric Halo Channel Strip
    2. Focusrite LiquidMix
    3. Unique Recording Software URS Strip Pro
    4.TeamDNR Mix Control Pro (Got a free license for beta testing, A great plugin that sadly will not be updated to support AAX or VST3 formats, The visionary and inspirational guy whom got it together to release it as you'll know passed away, He got a great team together to work on Mix Control/Mix Control Pro. When people like Reason and 112dB's Jules pass away so does the heart and soul of the works they have created, Both among other deaths have been awful for the community, So tragic and sad shit)
    4. Eventide UltraChannel (got it for free when they gave it away for a limited period, Its very good and comes closest to Metric Halo's Channel Strip than any alternative I'm aware of).
    5. Avid Channel Strip which is based on the System 5 console's EQ and dynamics, It comes with PT and is very decent despite my hatred for Avid, When they get shit right I will and do acknowledge it.
    6. Some Waves options, The Brainworx one among others which are all usable. In Ableton Live I enjoy creating my own channel strips with the rack and macro things, I love that feature.

    Thanks for the heads up as I don't check e-mails and stuff daily, With NAMM underway they'll hopefully be a slew of good and interesting things released and/or updated, Hardware and software.

    All the best to all, Cheers :wink:

    Dean
     
  11. Ankit

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    Nothing groundbreaking, except the name behind, Scheps.:hillbilly:
     
  12. quadcore64

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    You are right. They are "useful" for the most part. The point of separation is whether Waves plugins can replace a hardware equivalent for me personally. This is where I find most Waves plugins lacking.

    The Omni channel works very well. And yes it can be used across multiple channels without crashing your system.
     
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    Dude! For instance, I use waves SSL everywhere. That is one the best plugins I've ever used. I do not have the hardware but the software works very well
     
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    This would fall into the handful that work well for most. The users and owners of SSL gear will tell you that the Waves software cannot really replace the hardware. Only stand in as a n acceptable subsitute if you have no other option. UAD anyone?
     
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    The following is from an old Dell laptop running Windows 7 64 bit, 4 gig ram, 2.4 GHz quad i3

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    The best plugins from waves are not the hardware emulations. Good old Renessaince, H, Mv2, cobalt saphira ,,,
    Omni channel fits into that category. Not a boring emulation of something that was allready emulated 1000 times. It is an "waves created tool".
     
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    According to Andrew Scheps, he was looking for something that added coloration/weight rather than just an algorithmic function.

    Also in most of the manuals, there is a mention of a hardware influence on design. Including Renassiance.
     
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    Yeah but its still a tool. It is not an emulations of ... It is a flexible colourfull tool. Ever tried cobalt? This is pure colour and weigth. And its not an emulation ...
    Ever tried the renaisance compressors? Tools and yet they have a distinct spitty sound that is hard to creat with anything else.
     
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    Nice to see a big name bloke making ITB production even with loads of all that expensive and quality hardware lying around. Great work Mr. Scheps! Now we can all sell our hardware and get that sound with only one plugin ITB. :wink:

    That was sarcastic, of course. :) And not saying that this Waves tool is bad. Just hating all the marketing gimmicks. It actually sounds and looks like a great tool. The only tool you might need, actually. It really is a great mix of tools in one. A perfect channel strip, indeed. :wink:

    Shame I don't dig Waves... it's not 2001 any more and we've got so many quality plugins available my head spins. Or maybe it's the wine? :rofl:
     
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    That is not an easy ask on the majority of people's wallets though, So their best option is either a good quality all-in-one interface that feature microphone pre-amps that are clean and pretty neutral, Then use software, hardware or a combination of the two in order to add the type of imperfections that enhance a signal in a pleasing but totally subjective manner and the terminology which we all use can be vastly different to one person or persons than it is to another person or persons (Fluffy, Round, Open, Warm..etc.), It's an area probably worthy of that meme from The Princess Bride often hehe.
    I wouldn't sell my analogue and also older digital gear as you rightfully point out that it is not replaceable by software, However I will say that similar to way I look at and use guitar amp modeling/emulation/simulation stuff both software and hardware, I do not really care about it's accuracy to what it is mean't to replicate but rather does it sound good and work for Me/what I am trying to achieve. I'm exactly the same way with plug-ins. The only exceptions being a Kemper profiling amp in my gear options guitar and bass amp wise along with Focusrite's Sintefex licensed LiquidMix (dynamic convolution) and nowadays Acustica's Nebula method of being able to capture in such great detail the non-linear properties which nothing can match. I love the LiquidMix as it sounds just as good as when I got it along with always offering processing power which isn't affected by anything native, I do like and think highly of Universal Audio's digital platform, I have good friend's that swear by some of the available UAD2 stuff, I just never took the plunge myself. It'd be great to see Focusrite pickup the Liquid dynamic convolution based stuff and carry it further but they probably will not, It is difficult to make a case why they should when Nebula and the individual plugins they've released are doing a much finer job at getting as close to the real thing as it can/ Sintefex's stuff is really rather good but their marketing is non-existent and after the Liquid stuff was discontinued, They've not exactly seemed to do anything, It's frustrating when talent and potential are left wasting away but it happens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I find using Waves NLS after the SSL stuff on a track (with the NLS set to the SSL based console, Driven but not OTT and with those ridiculously awful "analogue" options on the Waves stuff not engaged ever) then either a bus or two with either the Waves G-Series, Cytomic The Glue or pretty much any VCA stereo bus compressor plugin that a person likes followed by the bus instance or instances of the NLS can really wake things up, Not only the SSL stuff but any plug-ins really to kick some life into things, It's not perfect but I've many times completely forgotten what was processed by the real thing and what has only been through plugins within a mix context, Probably could tell without much of a struggle if it we're two of the same source signal but one processed with the real version of insert piece of gear here and then the other processed with plugins that are not Nebula, So I am not refuting the claim at all, I'm just attempting to add some additional nuance.

    Things are always improving for the better, Be it software or hardware at a better price that can get in the same areas as what it is based on. I'm definately grabbing a few of those Warm Audio U47 FET alike mics, The price is very fair plus I'm not much into valve mics personally although I have a couple for when they work just right for a voice or other signal as options.

    SSL we're at one point looked down at by the gear snob types in their day when they we're new on the scene, It sounds absolutely ridiculous but shows how ridiculous certain types of people can be. I'm of the Joe Meek school of thought in the sense of "if it sounds right then it is right"

    All the best :)
     
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    All the best to you too. You are correct that not everyone can afford or, have access to decent hardware.

    I have trimmed back my plugins to what actually works and contributes to enhancing or sound design.
    Then there are the surgical tools for fixing bad recordings that you receive from other sources.
    everything else is just taking space like a peice of hardware that never gets used.

    Finally loaded the tracks into Pro Tools and wow! Very little overhead across 11 tracks so far. Using same laptop from Reaper example.
    ProTools.PNG
     
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